No Gay Wedding Cake For You

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honorentheos wrote: It doesn't. There are other rights involved.


Other rights involved? Please explain.

honorentheos wrote:ETA: I'd also use "rulings" in the plural. There is a body of applicable rulings which need to be considered in total. And I'd be curious what you know about them.


Well, it will be nice if you can summarize the body of applicable rulings.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
honorentheos wrote: It doesn't. There are other rights involved.


Other rights involved? Please explain.

honorentheos wrote:ETA: I'd also use "rulings" in the plural. There is a body of applicable rulings which need to be considered in total. And I'd be curious what you know about them.


Well, it will be nice if you can summarize the body of applicable rulings.

DT, I'm asking you to first summarize what you know or believe regarding them. I mean, this is the information age and law can be easily learned by anyone with reasonable cognitive abilities. So dot dot dot
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​“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”

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honorentheos wrote:DoubtingThomas, I'm asking you to first summarize what you know or believe regarding them. I mean, this is the information age and law can be easily learned by anyone with reasonable cognitive abilities. So dot dot dot


I am asking you because I don't know, but I am not sure why it is relevant. You told me the right to have an abortion is not in the constitution, so it is not clear that anti-abortion laws are unconstitutional, it's all interpretation and ideology. My point.

Res Ipsa wrote:DoubtingThomas: it starts here.


There is a reason why it is said that we have a conservative leaning supreme court.
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DT: What does your comment have to do with the article I linked?
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canpakes wrote:We can make ‘acronym’ an acronym:

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misunderstanding

I tried to come up with one, but...

After concentrating really onerously, nothing yet, man.
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Res Ipsa wrote:DoubtingThomas: What does your comment have to do with the article I linked?


I am just skeptical of our Supreme Court. I was asking to understand because I am open to the possibility that I am wrong about the Supreme Court.
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No, you are not open to being wrong except in the abstract. Like being open to the possibility the sun might not rise in the morning just because it did every other day. Sure, I'm open to that.

Put some effort in here, Dt to show you mean it.

So, let's go back to you expanding on your thoughts on the body of Supreme Court rulings related to a woman's reproductive rights. Anyone with reasonable cognitive skills could figure it out fairly easily. So. I'm just saying.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:DoubtingThomas: What does your comment have to do with the article I linked?


I am just skeptical of our Supreme Court. I was asking to understand because I am open to the possibility that I am wrong about the Supreme Court.


And I gave you a link to start you out. Did you read it?
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Res Ipsa wrote:And I gave you a link to start you out. Did you read it?

There are two Right to Privacy articles, which one did you wanted me to read?

honorentheos wrote:Put some effort in here, DoubtingThomas to show you mean it.

So, let's go back to you expanding on your thoughts on the body of Supreme Court rulings related to a woman's reproductive rights. Anyone with reasonable cognitive skills could figure it out fairly easily. So. I'm just saying.

I think the Supreme Court did the right thing to legalize abortion, but Justice Byron White (appointed by John Kennedy) wrote "I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant women and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes." and Justice Rehnquist wrote, "To reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to the drafters of the Amendment. As early as 1821, the first state law dealing directly with abortion was enacted by the Connecticut Legislature. By the time of the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868, there were at least 36 laws enacted by state or territorial legislatures limiting abortion. While many States have amended or updated their laws, 21 of the laws on the books in 1868 remain in effect today"

If Justice Rehnquist is right, then it only means that our Supreme Court is just a complete mess.
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