Sara Huckabee: Separate kids from Mom because of the Bible
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If evil is a real thing, this is it. We're talking about people arriving at the border and legally declaring themselves asylum seekers. They aren't climbing any fences. And the families are ripped apart because they had the audacity to seek the mercy of the US.
Way to go, Christian Drumpf voters. LOL at your sense of morality. You suck.
Way to go, Christian Drumpf voters. LOL at your sense of morality. You suck.
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Re: Sara Huckabee: Separate kids from Mom because of the Bib
Some Schmo wrote:If evil is a real thing, this is it..
Good and Evil probably don't exists. I bet Republicans think it is the will of God.
DoubtingThomas wrote:How sad that deporting immigrants is a priority for Republicans. Illegal immigration isn't really affecting us, we really have bigger problems to worry about. Jesus Christ!!!!
Let's worry instead about the serious threat of a pandemic disease, climate change, poverty, diabetes.
Republicans are full of it! Mother of God!!
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Good and Evil probably don't exists. Republicans probably think it is the will of God.Some Schmo wrote:If evil is a real thing, this is it..
Bit of a sidetrack there, but I'm not sure what your saying here. Good exists, as does bad. I had a good sandwich for lunch. I had to fart badly after. There's nothing supernatural about those things.
However, the word 'evil' sounds supernatural to me, which is why I said what I did. What's happening at the border is basically the product of massive selfishness and psychopathic inconsideration.
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Some Schmo wrote:
However, the word 'evil' sounds supernatural to me, which is why I said what I did. What's happening at the border is basically the product of massive selfishness and psychopathic inconsideration.
Yes, it is sad that half of Americans don't really care about children.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Yes, it is sad that half of Americans don't really care about children.
I don't think that's true. Somehow, I don't think a lot of the half of Americans you're talking about are hearing about it.
The ones who do hear about it and support it, however, are inhumane assholes, plain and simple. It's difficult to imagine why anyone should care what they want.
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I suspect there is something related to the Milgrim experiments at work here. People know it's wrong, but if only the people would stay in their own countries we wouldn't have to hurt them and their families...
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canpakes wrote:Do you agree that this change in the way that the law is currently being enforced is appropriately humane with regard to the children?
it is certainly humane, but I don't understand what you mean by "appropriately humane". Is that like being "appropriately humane" when you send a single parent to prison for a crime they committed?
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honorentheos wrote:I suspect there is something related to the Milgrim experiments at work here. People know it's wrong, but if only the people would stay in their own countries we wouldn't have to hurt them and their families...
Right on cue
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics ... index.html
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subgenius wrote:canpakes wrote:Do you agree that this change in the way that the law is currently being enforced is appropriately humane with regard to the children?
it is certainly humane, but I don't understand what you mean by "appropriately humane". Is that like being "appropriately humane" when you send a single parent to prison for a crime they committed?
To get you past your auto reply of Jeff Sessions/Fox and Friends talking points, allow me to break this down into smaller bits:
Do you agree that when a parent comes to the US border and surrenders him/herself willingly upon arrival at the border in an attempt to gain asylum, then this (1) is a crime that requires being charged in a way that (2) allows the child and parent to be separated, with (3) the child sometimes being transported and held in a facility hundreds or thousands of miles from the parent?
Or do you see the possibility of an approach that doesn’t necessarily interpret surrendering at the border as a crime, or even if interpreted as such might allow for children and their parents to be housed in a way so that visitation or proximity are considered?
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Re: Sara Huckabee: Separate kids from Mom because of the Bib
subgenius wrote:canpakes wrote:Do you agree that this change in the way that the law is currently being enforced is appropriately humane with regard to the children?
it is certainly humane, but I don't understand what you mean by "appropriately humane". Is that like being "appropriately humane" when you send a single parent to prison for a crime they committed?
Of course judicial practice will vary from place to place. But in many advanced western countries, sentencing of a single parent with a dependent child would follow some time after the verdict. In that time, the judge would expect to receive reports on the impact of a custodial sentence on the convicted person, their child or children and other aspects of their life, and would take into account the nature of the offence (for instance, did it involve violence or other significant direct harm to others?) and, certainly, whether or not this was a first time offence.
Seizing and removing a baby or young child from a parent, and separating the child from their parent(s) in the long term because the person in question is thought (by an official with no judicial capacity) to have an irregular immigration status does seem just a bit different from the carefully weighed decision process followed in the case of a sentence delivered after due consideration, following on due process resulting in criminal conviction.
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