Trump's War on Children
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Trump's War on Children
For the first time in US history, children are being detained and then handed over to human traffickers all because their parents sought asylum. The Trump administration says this is biblical, and they're doing it as a deterrent to keep asylum seekers away.
Dozens of children are dying in our schools while the President* keeps the status quo, lies about what he will do, and then when the media's focus veers off, he goes back to sucking at the NRA's teet.
I don't know the exact figure, but I suspect more than a thousand children were among the dead after Puerto Rico was hit by natural disaster. Many of them were probably dead or in the process of dying as the President* was on the island acting like he was at a campaign rally throwing around rolls of paper towels.
Is this really what we've become as a nation?
Dozens of children are dying in our schools while the President* keeps the status quo, lies about what he will do, and then when the media's focus veers off, he goes back to sucking at the NRA's teet.
I don't know the exact figure, but I suspect more than a thousand children were among the dead after Puerto Rico was hit by natural disaster. Many of them were probably dead or in the process of dying as the President* was on the island acting like he was at a campaign rally throwing around rolls of paper towels.
Is this really what we've become as a nation?
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Re: Trump's War on Children
your hair fires are nicely complimented by your recent habit of flame posting...but both are ignited by your blazing hot idiocy, while simultaneously quenching all of our thirsts for for us not being the biggest moron in the room.
Elián González wants a word with ya,

Elián González wants a word with ya,

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Re: Trump's War on Children
Aw, c’mon Hawkeye. The administration is only putting children in prison camps — not giving them to traffickers. Geez!
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Re: Trump's War on Children
Elián González has far more in common with Sean Goldman than any of the Children Trump has waged a war upon. But you're an idiot, so how would you know?
Yeah, I must have just made that up huh?
The U.S. lost track of 1,475 immigrant children last year
Honduran man kills himself after family torn away from him by border patrol.
Woman had baby taken while breastfeeding, never to see again
To add insult to injury, the GOP says this is all justified because the Bible says it is. What in the ever living f--k?
Using a parent's love against them by threatening their children is such a deplorable tactic that hasn't been used in the developed world anywhere this century. It only happens in the movies and is tyrannical despots behind closed doors. Oh, and now it happens out in the open in the United States. All because we elected a tyrant who thinks the citizens need to "stand and pay attention" when he speaks, same as they do in North Korea. All because Republicans are such scared little snowflakes who have become terrified of their own shadow and turned this into their new boogeyman.

Aw, c’mon Hawkeye. The administration is only putting children in prison camps — not giving them to traffickers. Geez!
Yeah, I must have just made that up huh?
The number of migrant children held in U.S. government custody without their parents has surged 21 percent in the past month, according to the latest figures, an increase driven by the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” crackdown on families who cross the border illegally. Although the government has not disclosed how many children have been separated from their parents as a result of the new measures, the Department of Health and Human Services said Tuesday that it had 10,773 migrant children in its custody, up from 8,886 on April 29.
The U.S. lost track of 1,475 immigrant children last year
Health and Human Services officials have argued it is not the department’s legal responsibility to find those children after they are released from the care of the Office of Refugee Resettlement, which falls under HHS‘s Administration for Children and Families. And some have pointed out that adult sponsors are sometimes relatives who already were living in the United States and who intentionally may not be responding to contact attempts by HHS.
However, neither of those arguments has done much to quell outrage surrounding the testimony by Wagner, a principal deputy at HHS who oversees the Administration for Children and Families.
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), chairman of the Senate subcommittee, has repeatedly argued that it was a matter of humanity, not simply legal responsibility, citing a case in which federal officials had turned over eight immigrant children to human traffickers.
“These kids, regardless of their immigration status, deserve to be treated properly, not abused or trafficked,” Portman said in the subcommittee. “This is all about accountability.”
Portman reiterated his stance in an April 24 “Frontline” special called “Trafficked in America,” which documented the plight of the eight children who were forced to work on an egg farm in Ohio.
Honduran man kills himself after family torn away from him by border patrol.
Woman had baby taken while breastfeeding, never to see again
To add insult to injury, the GOP says this is all justified because the Bible says it is. What in the ever living f--k?
Using a parent's love against them by threatening their children is such a deplorable tactic that hasn't been used in the developed world anywhere this century. It only happens in the movies and is tyrannical despots behind closed doors. Oh, and now it happens out in the open in the United States. All because we elected a tyrant who thinks the citizens need to "stand and pay attention" when he speaks, same as they do in North Korea. All because Republicans are such scared little snowflakes who have become terrified of their own shadow and turned this into their new boogeyman.

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Re: Trump's War on Children
subgenius wrote:Elián González wants a word with ya
Lol. One child, from almost two decades ago, and of a completely different situation.
Fox sure isn’t providing you with any quality talking points, these days.
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Re: Trump's War on Children
Hold on Hawkeye, this was your claim.
The only example you give of trafficking is the Ohio egg farm. When did the children come to the U.S? 2012. Who was President in 2012? https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.s ... human.html
How did those boys get into the hands of traffickers? By doing exactly what you want the Trump administration to do -- release them to their sponsors. Except that, in this case, the sponsors were in cahoots with the traffickers. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... n-america/
And did you actually read the WP story you linked? Here's the story of the "lost" children:
So, HHS "lost" children that it wasn't responsible for keeping track of. And "lost" means the parents or other sponsors didn't answer their phone. And none of these are children who were separated from asylum seeking parents. That's a recent development, and those kids are being held in gulags, err prison camps, err internment camps, err (checks newspeak dictionary)....
Can you provide even a single example of a child who was separated from asylum-speaking parents and placed with a human trafficker? Just one?
With so many fish jammed into a barrel, why do you insist on aiming at your foot?
For the first time in US history, children are being detained and then handed over to human traffickers all because their parents sought asylum.
The only example you give of trafficking is the Ohio egg farm. When did the children come to the U.S? 2012. Who was President in 2012? https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.s ... human.html
How did those boys get into the hands of traffickers? By doing exactly what you want the Trump administration to do -- release them to their sponsors. Except that, in this case, the sponsors were in cahoots with the traffickers. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... n-america/
And did you actually read the WP story you linked? Here's the story of the "lost" children:
On Monday night, HHS Deputy Secretary Eric Hargan said in a statement that “the assertion that unaccompanied alien children (UAC) are ‘lost’ is completely false. This is a classic example of the adage ‘No good deed goes unpunished.’”
Hargan’s statement said that ORR “began voluntarily making calls in 2016 as a 30-day follow-up on the release of UAC to make sure that UAC and their sponsors did not require additional services. This additional step, which is not required and was not done previously, is now being used to confuse and spread misinformation.
"These children are not ‘lost’; their sponsors — who are usually parents or family members and in all cases have been vetted for criminality and ability to provide for them — simply did not respond or could not be reached when this voluntary call was made. While there are many possible reasons for this, in many cases sponsors cannot be reached because they themselves are illegal aliens and do not want to be reached by federal authorities.
"This is the core of this issue: In many cases, HHS has been put in the position of placing illegal aliens with the individuals who helped arrange for them to enter the country illegally. This makes the immediate crisis worse and creates a perverse incentive for further violation of federal immigration law."
So, HHS "lost" children that it wasn't responsible for keeping track of. And "lost" means the parents or other sponsors didn't answer their phone. And none of these are children who were separated from asylum seeking parents. That's a recent development, and those kids are being held in gulags, err prison camps, err internment camps, err (checks newspeak dictionary)....
Can you provide even a single example of a child who was separated from asylum-speaking parents and placed with a human trafficker? Just one?
With so many fish jammed into a barrel, why do you insist on aiming at your foot?
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Re: Trump's War on Children
canpakes wrote:subgenius wrote:Elián González wants a word with ya
Lol. One child, from almost two decades ago, and of a completely different situation.
Fox sure isn’t providing you with any quality talking points, these days.
Acknowledging that subgenius is an ignorant, racist bigot and/or incorrigible troll is no insult. It is merely an easily demonstratible fact so incontroveritble that even God himself cannot deny it without revealing himself to be a liar or fool or both!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Re: Trump's War on Children
canpakes wrote:subgenius wrote:Elián González wants a word with ya
Lol. One child, from almost two decades ago, and of a completely different situation.
Fox sure isn’t providing you with any quality talking points, these days.
I think the implication of the anecdote is that the OP anecdotes are equally narrow and not indicative of some nefarious government sponsored child trafficking (I smell the hair fire).
Nevertheless, it speaks to the larger point that the OPoster believes this is a unique situation and circumstance that only began in January of 2017...and that only an idiot would consider the notion of government sponsored human trafficking as being a remotely valid modus operandi in these cases.
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Re: Trump's War on Children
Res Ipsa wrote:Hold on Hawkeye, this was your claim.For the first time in US history, children are being detained and then handed over to human traffickers all because their parents sought asylum.
The only example you give of trafficking is the Ohio egg farm. When did the children come to the U.S? 2012. Who was President in 2012? https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.s ... human.html
How did those boys get into the hands of traffickers? By doing exactly what you want the Trump administration to do -- release them to their sponsors. Except that, in this case, the sponsors were in cahoots with the traffickers. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/arti ... n-america/
And did you actually read the WP story you linked? Here's the story of the "lost" children:On Monday night, HHS Deputy Secretary Eric Hargan said in a statement that “the assertion that unaccompanied alien children (UAC) are ‘lost’ is completely false. This is a classic example of the adage ‘No good deed goes unpunished.’”
Hargan’s statement said that ORR “began voluntarily making calls in 2016 as a 30-day follow-up on the release of UAC to make sure that UAC and their sponsors did not require additional services. This additional step, which is not required and was not done previously, is now being used to confuse and spread misinformation.
"These children are not ‘lost’; their sponsors — who are usually parents or family members and in all cases have been vetted for criminality and ability to provide for them — simply did not respond or could not be reached when this voluntary call was made. While there are many possible reasons for this, in many cases sponsors cannot be reached because they themselves are illegal aliens and do not want to be reached by federal authorities.
"This is the core of this issue: In many cases, HHS has been put in the position of placing illegal aliens with the individuals who helped arrange for them to enter the country illegally. This makes the immediate crisis worse and creates a perverse incentive for further violation of federal immigration law."
So, HHS "lost" children that it wasn't responsible for keeping track of. And "lost" means the parents or other sponsors didn't answer their phone. And none of these are children who were separated from asylum seeking parents. That's a recent development, and those kids are being held in gulags, err prison camps, err internment camps, err (checks newspeak dictionary)....
Can you provide even a single example of a child who was separated from asylum-speaking parents and placed with a human trafficker? Just one?
With so many fish jammed into a barrel, why do you insist on aiming at your foot?
please don't distract Hawkeye from pouring lighter fluid on his curly locks, it's difficult for him to bother with facts....he's firing on one cylinder, ya know.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
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Re: Trump's War on Children
HFC. I should really jump in here.
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