Trump's War on Children

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_DarkHelmet
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Maksutov wrote:What a hoot. The LDS church came out against the detention practice in question some time ago. And has reiterated it.

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/ ... ico-border

Church Statement on Separation of Families at the US-Mexico Border
OFFICIAL STATEMENT18 JUNE 2018 - SALT LAKE CITY

Due to media inquiries, the Church has issued the following statement:

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has long expressed its position that immigration reform should strengthen families and keep them together. The forced separation of children from their parents now occurring at the U.S.-Mexico border is harmful to families, especially to young children. We are deeply troubled by the aggressive and insensitive treatment of these families. While we recognize the right of all nations to enforce their laws and secure their borders, we encourage our national leaders to take swift action to correct this situation and seek for rational, compassionate solutions.

Who knew that LDS really meant Liberals Doing Socialism? Eh, subby? :biggrin:

I know, we'll blame it on the party no longer in power in any branch of federal government. :lol: :lol: :lol:


What a dilemma for TBM Trump supporters. Their supreme leaders in SLC have contradicted their supreme leader in Washington D.C. Who do they obey?
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Sessions is being condemned by his own United Methodist Church.

In the letter, the group of churchgoers, including clergy and church leadership, accuse Sessions of child abuse, immorality, racial discrimination and dissemination of doctrines contrary to the standards of the doctrine of the United Methodist Church.


"While other individuals and areas of the federal government are implicated in each of these examples, Mr. Sessions - as a long-term United Methodist in a tremendously powerful, public position - is particularly accountable to us, his church," the letter reads. "He is ours, and we are his. As his denomination, we have an ethical obligation to speak boldly when one of our members is engaged in causing significant harm in matters contrary to the Discipline on the global stage."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hundr ... smsnnews11
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CHILDREN DON'T TRAVEL THOUSANDS OF MILES ON A WHIM

Border Children Tell Their Stories: Why We Came to the US

Jan 9, 2018

"Trump administration announced that it was stripping approximately 260,500 Salvadoran immigrants — who’ve been in the US for at least 17 years, since a 2001 earthquake — of temporary legal status as of July 2019. In total, the administration has set up more than 320,000 immigrants to lose their legal status over the course of late 2018 and 2019 (and possibly as many as 375,000, depending on what it decides to do with 57,000 Honduran immigrants this spring).

The overwhelming majority of those immigrants have deep roots in the US. And Salvadorans might have the deepest roots of all: Approximately 192,700 US-born children have at least one parent who’s on track to lose legal status due to the administration’s Monday announcement.

After two decades in the US, hundreds of thousands of families will now have to decide whether to return to one of the most violent countries on earth — or remain in the US as unauthorized immigrants and try to slink into the shadows."
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DarkHelmet wrote:..seek for rational, compassionate solutions.

and how do you imagine this mold will get made?

has no one here been paying attention for the last 2 years?...what happens during a massive Lib/Democrat outrage and media blitz of hair fires?

I'm completely comfortable with how LDS will define "rational", "compassionate", and "solution"....and I'll bet its nowhere near your definition.

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Trump is positioning himself to cave on separation.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/0 ... /23462802/
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Chap wrote:
moksha wrote:Ann Coulter says those terrified children in news reports were actors hired by liberals. Probably hired from Munchkins-R-Us.


Link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=OTdRSEt9oGk&feature=youtu.be
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Have any of you seen anything about the euphemistically called ‘tender age’ migrant facilities where they are sending the youngest and most vulnerable children, including infants and toddlers?
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Hundreds of children, from infants to pre-school age, have been sent at least three “tender age” shelters in Texas as part of the Trump administration’s policy to separate children from their parents at the border, the Associated Press reported Tuesday night.

While the facilities are said to be clean and safe, visitors told the AP that the children inside were hysterical and crying.

“The thought that they are going to be putting such little kids in an institutional setting? I mean it is hard for me to even wrap my mind around it,” Kay Bellor, vice president for programs at Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, told the AP.

“I apologize for losing it there for a moment. Not the way I intended that to go, not by a mile,” Maddow later said in a tweet.

The shelters were compared to orphanages, which were eventually done away with in the U.S. after studies found the living situations caused severe and lasting trauma to children.

“The facilities that they have for the most part are not licensed for tender age children,” Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women’s Refugee Commission, told the AP. “There is no model for how you house tons of little children in cots institutionally in our country.”

Doctors said the detained children could suffer lasting harm.

“Children are biologically programmed to grow best in the care of a parent figure. When that bond is broken through long and unexpected separations with no set timeline for reunion, children respond at the deepest physiological and emotional levels,” Alicia Lieberman, head of the Early Trauma Treatment Network at the University of California, San Francisco, told the AP. “Their fear triggers a flood of stress hormones that disrupt neural circuits in the brain, create high levels of anxiety, make them more susceptible to physical and emotional illness, and damage their capacity to manage their emotions, trust people, and focus their attention on age-appropriate activities.”

More than 2,300 children have been separated from their parents since the policy was put into effect in early May, federal officials say. Outrage has grown, with Democratic lawmakers and religious groups condemning the policy as inhumane and un-American. Facing rising pressure, Republican senators on Tuesday called for a bill to be drawn up this week to end the separations. The entire Democratic Senate caucus has already signed onto legislation to end the practice.


Here is the AP article that brought Rachel Maddow to tears, and who could blame her?

See also this. It's both outrageous and heartbreaking! Trump is in affect saying "I will keep hurting and holding hostage innocent children until you Democrats agree to fund my wall!"
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Gunnar you don't know how I wish I hadn't checked the board before going to bed or seen your post. Yes, I heard about the Maddow incident earlier this evening via our mutual friend. I didn't investigate further because I can only absorb so much in one day and I knew I couldn't tolerate one more issue, so I decided to pursue it tomorrow. Having scanned the article, I can see that I was right.

All this time, I have wondered where the young children were. The reports, for example, of the shelter in Texas were about children age 10-17.

Thanks to this article, my question has been answered.

I cannot address this right now. There aren't enough words to describe my reaction or anything I would like to share regarding these conditions. I'll try to comment tomorrow with some level of restraint but now is not the time because I have no restraint left at all.
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Just as a matter of interest. I am a grown adult who is overwhelmed by this current report. My choice is to shut down my computer and wait another day to deal with this.

The infants and young children in the "tender age" shelters, who are being cared for by unfamiliar adults where sleep is impossible in rooms filled with anxious peers, who cannot wait to deal with this another day, who are overwhelmed by an abrupt separation from their parents without the benefit of a period of adjustment, have little other recourse but to shut THEMSELVES down.

It is just as I stated previously. And it is deadly.
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