Trump's War on Children

[_Hawkeye]

note that currently +80% of asylum claims are proven to be fraudulent, most often after the fact.

stupid lie again.

[_Hawkeye]

Funny to hear ajax pretend to care about costs to the taxpayer on this subject. Everything Trump does costs much more.

Trump’s Family Detention Policy Will Cost Billions Of Dollars That ICE Doesn’t Have

[_subgenius]

note that currently +80% of asylum claims are proven to be fraudulent, most often after the fact.

stupid lie again.

the only stupid around here is - as usual - you.
just to keep you up to date (take a look in between your community college course work)
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/qu ... ylum-fraud

Those seeking asylum and those who piggy back on the asylum "family" clause:

Expedited Removal occurs for those who illegally attempted to gain asylum by fraud or misrepresentation, or with no entry documents, or by using counterfeit, altered, or otherwise fraudulent or improper documents.
(this occurs at the border and comprises about 35% of removals)

Administrative Reason for Removal occurs for those who attemptedto gain asylum by fraud or misrepresentation, or with no entry documents, or by using counterfeit, altered, or otherwise fraudulent or improper documents.
(this occurs in court and comprises about 36% of removals)

so currently we are at 71%, care to add in the percentage of benefits fraud cases? (see also Fraud Detection and National Security Directorate (FDNS)).
https://www.dhs.gov/publications
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statist ... es-asylees

Oh, and as a follow-up - did you ever get around to proving that whole "special reservation" asylum for cartel assassin targets? (i mean, i get it...that hair-fire takes a lot of your attention and fact research, truth finding, and other such nonsense just isn't on your schedule).

[_subgenius]

You can't know a person is here illegally unless you give them due process. Otherwise, you're just declaring that government authorities have the right to deport anyone without the basic protection of them needing to present evidence their allegations are true in a court of law.

The laws governing border agents allow for immediate deportation, based upon several options - one of which is being at the border "illegally"...a.k.a. a due process without a court of law....get you an education, government authorities already have that right.

[_canpakes]

subs, why did your own family come to the US? Would you consider it a valid reason today?

[_subgenius]

[_subgenius]

subs, why did your own family come to the US? Would you consider it a valid reason today?

You mean to ask why did my family legally enter the US?

[_canpakes]

subs, why did your own family come to the US? Would you consider it a valid reason today?

You mean to ask why did my family legally enter the US?

Sure. Explain what that entailed, while you’re at it. But don’t forget the reason why they came in the first place.

[_subgenius]

Sure. Explain what that entailed, while you’re at it. But don’t forget the reason why they came in the first place.

My maternal family immigrated here via my mother, who came to the States as an unaccompanied minor due to family tragedy that required her Aunt to take custody of her. Her immigration being from a US Commonwealth only required medical screening for admission and she passed. However, prior to that my maternal family was indigenous to the island from which she was born...origin prior unknown, except according to DNA science there was a migration from sub-sahara around 10,000 years ago (no border documents found).

My paternal family was part of the Scotch/Irish immigration wave of 1600s where high cost of living and persecution were the main reasons for migrating - no specific record exists for my particular ancestor, so "spunky spirit" could have easily been the cause....as would indentured servitude or deportation of criminals.

In either case I am quite confident that my arriving ancestors ultimately had the goal of exploiting their privilege.

[_Hawkeye]

You specifically said 80% were fraudulent, meaning they're were not legit asylum seekers. You pretend to have retrived this from the links you provided, but none of them say what you said. Instead we get a link to a charge against some immigration attorney in New York, alleged to have provided false information in 180 cases. In reality you just regurgitated the unsubstantiated claim passed around by Daily Caller and Washington Examiner. Ultimately the argument is circular. Basically, since the Trump administration rejects 80% because it doesn't believe 80%, then that 80% must be lying. Yeah, don't ask us to choose sides in a credibility war with anyone against this corrupt administration.

Trump has already pigeonholed all immigrants from the south as rapists and immoral animals. He also flat out said he doesn't want judges involved anymore. He just wants to declare, by virtue of his own authority, that every person presented at the border is "illegal" and should charged with a crime. That's not how it is supposed to be under existing law. Due process matters especially in developed countries. But Trump's America has degenerated into something else. Trump is a career criminal and liar who has never really cared about the law or being truthful, and same is true of his idiot followers like you.