Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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Re: Why Is Trunp So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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Some Schmo wrote:It's obvious. Putin has the pee tape.

Must you hold a small indiscretion with a trio of prostitutes in the Moscow Sheraton and its recording by Russian agents against him forever?

What about all the Russian investments in Trump Enterprises as an alternate explanation?
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Chap wrote:Dear Board Members:

What do you think Majax thinks this thing called 'communism' essentially consists of?

I think he is referring to desecrating both Mom and apple pie while simultaneously plotting the overthrow of Wall Street and giving away the contents of Fort Knox to people of color.

Hope that helps.
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Re: Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I think your communism is a bigger threat to American freedom than Putin by far.


Dear Board Members:

What do you think Majax thinks this thing called 'communism' essentially consists of?


Global warming that Gunnar seems to care so deeply about is more of an effort to establish global communism than it is to stop climate change.

I certainly trust Putin more than Gunnar, EAllusion, or Kevin Graham. It's not even close.
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ajax18 wrote:Global warming that Gunnar seems to care so deeply about is more of an effort to establish global communism than it is to stop climate change.

I certainly trust Putin more than Gunnar, EAllusion, or Kevin Graham. It's not even close.

Well, you just enjoy your respite from global communism next week. https://www.axios.com/scorching-heat-wa ... c4126.html
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Re: Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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ajax18 wrote:Global warming that Gunnar seems to care so deeply about is more of an effort to establish global communism than it is to stop climate change.


I have never heard even a cogent argument how this is supposed to work?

I certainly trust Putin more than Gunnar, EAllusion, or Kevin Graham. It's not even close.


So you trust a guy who destroyed Russia's emerging democracy and invades another country and kills his opponents more then these three? The guy you guys would hate before he interfered with US elections in 2016. You really think Putin wants to help you out and keep you free and safe more then those three?
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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I think your communism is a bigger threat to American freedom than Putin by far.


Dear Board Members:

What do you think Majax thinks this thing called 'communism' essentially consists of?

He apparently thinks that anyone who disagrees with him about anything must be a communist, or that anyone who cares about the well being of anyone other than oneself must be a communist.
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Gunnar wrote:
Chap wrote:
Dear Board Members:

What do you think Majax thinks this thing called 'communism' essentially consists of?

He apparently thinks that anyone who disagrees with him about anything must be a communist, or that anyone who cares about the well being of anyone other than oneself must be a communist.

It's easiest to explain Majax by saying he's a willing ignoramus. That says everything you need to know about him. He has no interest in reality whatsoever. Facts are no fun for his addled racist mindset.
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Themis wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Global warming that Gunnar seems to care so deeply about is more of an effort to establish global communism than it is to stop climate change.

I have never heard even a cogent argument how this is supposed to work?

There isn't one.

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Re: Why Is Trump So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I think your communism is a bigger threat to American freedom than Putin by far.

Dear Board Members:

What do you think Majax thinks this thing called 'communism' essentially consists of?

ajax18 wrote:Global warming that Gunnar seems to care so deeply about is more of an effort to establish global communism than it is to stop climate change.

I certainly trust Putin more than Gunnar, EAllusion, or Kevin Graham. It's not even close.

But what is this thing that Majax calls 'communism'? He doesn't say.

I suspect that it may be a reference to what are (in his view) the dangers to the US that he fears will follow from its participation in international multilateral agreements such as the the Paris Agreement on action to combat climate change, and so on. But past that guess, I am in the dark.

"Communism" has a fairly clear historical meaning, which refers to two things:

1. A supposedly possible state of society based on common ownership, without class conflicts, where everybody contributes according to their abilities, and everybody gets in return what they need.

2. A political movement that aims to promote the ultimate establishment of such a society by the overthrow of existing structures of power, which are said to be controlled by the owners of capital and to function by exploiting those who work for wages.

(By the way: much of my own political life has been spent urging that (1) is not possible, and that hence (2) is misguided and likely to be more destructive than to promote human happiness.)

I don't see what Majax's usage has to do with that (to my mind) normal use of the word 'communism'.
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Re: Why Is Trunp So Eager to Do Putin's Bidding?

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Gunnar wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:It's obvious. Putin has the pee tape.

Perhaps even more telling is the enormous sums of money Trump and his organization owes to Russian banks and oligarchs, because no respectable U.S. banks were still willing to loan him money.

Bingo.
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