PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit

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Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit

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subgenius wrote: nothing significant will come of this...
Maybe. Do you regard that as a good thing?

but give it to the Democrats for suddenly caring about the welfare of children....even though that story is over a month old.
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains- ... us-custody


The Obama admin faced a ton of criticism for its handling of immigration from civil libertarians and various immigration advocates. Some of that was from Democrats, though it was muted to an extent due to partisanship. Given that you also tend to describe anyone who doesn't display absolute fealty to the current Republican power-center as a "Democrat" that also includes some of those people as well. I repeatedly complained about the Obama admin's handling of immigration on this board. Curiously, I don't recall you saying a peep, but maybe you got religion on it recently.

Given that this is just another example of, "You do it too!" rather than actually addressing the issue at hand, do you support the Trump admin's actions here? Or are you just going to attempt another round of relying on debating a false equivalence rather than actually addressing what's going on right now?
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Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit

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ajax18 wrote:
subgenius wrote:As with the documents that the ACLU acquired regarding the treatment of unaccompanied illegal-immigrant children, nothing significant will come of this...but give it to the Democrats for suddenly caring about the welfare of children....even though that story is over a month old.
https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-obtains- ... us-custody



If America is such a racist and oppressive country, why did you choose to immigrate here?

I did not immigrate here. And I don't think America is oppressive and racist.
I do think Democrats only care about immigrant children when politically convenient.
I do think Democrats make a lot of noise over Trump's administration of the detention centers so as to remain deaf of what these documents show happened during Obama's tenure.

I also think that while we often share a disdain for the underdeveloped political rationale of Democrats and Liberals, we do not share the same ability to think. I am all too often reminded of the cost associated with how juvenile minds associate your posts and my posts as being "their posts".
My advice is for you to keep fighting the good fight, but my prayer is that you will be able to know what is good to fight for...because fighting for will always prevail over fighting against.

Good luck fellow natural born citizen.
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Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit

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EAllusion wrote:I repeatedly complained about the Obama admin's handling of immigration on this board.

...

Given that this is just another example of, "You do it too!" rather than actually addressing the issue at hand, do you support the Trump admin's actions here? Or are you just going to attempt another round of relying on debating a false equivalence rather than actually addressing what's going on right now?

Lol. No real answer will be forthcoming from subs.
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My apologies Subgenius. I mistook you for Some Schmo. Change that avatar
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ajax18 wrote:My apologies Subgenius. I mistook you for Some Schmo. Change that avatar


Further evidence that Ajax doesn’t actually bother to read the posts he is responding to. Stay classy you racist tool!
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EAllusion wrote:I repeatedly complained about the Obama admin's handling of immigration on this board.

That may well be, but the topic at hand is about the treatment of children in the detention centers, perhaps you could direct me to the "repeated complaints" about that particular topic ? That way we can both be talking about the same topic.

EAllusion wrote:Curiously, I don't recall you saying a peep, but maybe you got religion on it recently.

You confuse the situation, there is no indication that I am critical of the alleged conditions during Obama's tenure, and clearly my point was for how many blind eyes there were on the matter both then and now. The recent religion is certainly applicable, but not at my doorstep.


EAllusion wrote:Given that this is just another example of, "You do it too!" rather than actually addressing the issue at hand,

See my topic at hand comment above and note my grin.
However, "you do it too" is not the charge, the charge is that posters' companions are becoming exposed as being politically convenient.

EAllusion wrote: do you support the Trump admin's actions here? Or are you just going to attempt another round of relying on debating a false equivalence rather than actually addressing what's going on right now?

Some of this alleged actions are just that, alleged...but I do agree that the zero tolerance policy is the better course and i disagree with the hyperbole and false compassion that this policy's critics have manufactured.
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ajax18 wrote:My apologies Subgenius. I mistook you for Some Schmo. Change that avatar

Thank you.
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Further evidence that Ajax doesn’t actually bother to read the posts he is responding to. Stay classy you racist tool!


It appears I'm not the only to make this mistake.

The actual possibility that Schreech might be white is enough to make me change my views on race. What is your genealogical heritage Schreech? Something is not adding up.
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ajax18 wrote:
Further evidence that Ajax doesn’t actually bother to read the posts he is responding to. Stay classy you racist tool!


It appears I'm not the only to make this mistake.

The actual possibility that Schreech might be white is enough to make me change my views on race. What is your genealogical heritage Schreech? Something is not adding up.


Wtf does this even mean??? I think white robes and pointy hat are on a little too tight. Are you suggesting that pointing out that you are a racist idiot who doesn’t read the posts he is responding to is something a white person shouldn’t do? Never mind. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Ya dumb racist.
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Re: PBS Newshour report on family separation lawsuit

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Wtf does this even mean??? I think white robes and pointy hat are on a little too tight. Are you suggesting that pointing out that you are a racist idiot who doesn’t read the posts he is responding to is something a white person shouldn’t do? Never mind. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Ya dumb racist.



Do you want to really turn my world upside down? Prove to me that you're 100% European decent.
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