Kevin Graham wrote:Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice and violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution.
you constantly repeating this still doesn't make it true...and pretending evidence exists doesn't actually want evidence exists.
And a banker that allegedly gives loans because he wants to be involved in the campaign doesn't mean "campaign connection". All things Manafort are not all things Trump campaign collusion.
Hair-fire boogey man indeed.
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subgenius wrote:you constantly repeating this still doesn't make it true...and pretending evidence exists doesn't actually want evidence exists.
Hair-fire boogey man indeed.
It is repeated because the evidence is plentiful. Just because you're too much of a shill to allow yourself to see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But at least you're not confusing proof and evidence like waterdog. And don't be upset with me just because you burned all your hair out long ago.
So Trump says he thinks of Putin not as a friend or enemy, but as a competitor.
But he calls the European Union a foe.
Does anyone, ANYONE think that the European Union is a greater threat to the United States than Russia? I know Trump likes to be the contrarian and go against conventional wisdom, but sometimes wisdom is conventional for a reason. The Russian GRU is up to its neck in disrupting our elections, but when asked if he will press for the extradition of the persons named in Mueller's indictment, Trump responded "I hadn't thought of that".
So Trump will ask Putin he interfered in the elections, rather than telling him we know the Russians interfered. It is hard for me to find a rational explanation for his blindness.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization." - Will Durant "We've kept more promises than we've even made" - Donald Trump "Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist." - Edwin Land
Water Dog aside, the president of the United States is consistently putting up a wall of disinformation and lying to his loyal supporters about Russian interference into our elections designed to help him. The volume and naked audacity of lies is just stunning. He and his supporters in government are doing all that they can to obstruct and and mislead the public about investigation into Russian interference into our elections. It's very clear that this is going on, yet it's still effective enough with enough of the public to muddy the waters.
There's a sort of civil momentum that exists in our society to not call this the obvious traitorous behavior that it is. If there is a future free of academic suppression, future generations are going to have a hard time not understanding why this wasn't obvious to the public. It's going to be hard to explain.
Trump and his allies in the administration and Congress are traitors. We should not accept any suggestion to the contrary. In my mind the denial of this fact is like the refusal to see Brigham Young’s culpability in the MMM. Passively allowing harm is also culpable behavior. It is the sacred duty of the president to defend the Constitution and the nation. Trump places himself before the country. He is an insult to our Constitutional system. The GOP should be strenuously and openly seeking to remove him from office. They are complicit inasmuch as they have failed to pursue this.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
While I agree the evidence seems to clearly point to that as the only plausible explanation for Trump's behavior, I do think it's important to make space for the Special Prosecutor to do his job and let the outcome of that investigation determine what actually happened and with what intent. The process is necessary. Those on either side who would shortcut it are not doing the nation any favors.
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honorentheos wrote:While I agree the evidence seems to clearly point to that as the only plausible explanation for Trump's behavior, I do think it's important to make space for the Special Prosecutor to do his job and let the outcome of that investigation determine what actually happened and with what intent. The process is necessary. Those on either side who would shortcut it are not doing the nation any favors.
I did not suggest otherwise.
"Petition wasn’t meant to start a witch hunt as I’ve said 6000 times." ~ Hanna Seariac, LDS apologist
It was just a point with no one specifically in mind. The thread has swayed in both directions at times, in my opinion, and that was my little push towards what I consider to be the appropriate direction.
Perhaps it's my cynical nature, but I'm inclined to view any and every person who puts their name to that move as a candidate for being the Congressperson described in the indictments as having received opposition information from Russian sources.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa