Anybody can act "Presidential," what I do is hard. - DJT

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Some Schmo wrote:Yeah, Dennis Miller... the hilarious guy who taught Al Michaels the word "alacrity."

At least he isn't completely ignorant, which is saying something for a Republican.

The downside to Dennis Miller is that Republicans need to constantly seek feedback from Democrats in order to ascertain whether Miller is funny or not.
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"You know if you go out and you want to buy groceries you need a picture on a card -- you need ID. … In this country, the only time you don’t need it, in many cases, is when you want to vote for a president, when you want to vote for a senator, when you want to vote for a governor or a congressman."

Trump used the example of buying groceries to call for mandatory voter ID at the polls. But the scenario is an exaggeration.

A photo ID isn’t necessary to buy food at a grocery store with cash, but retailers can ask to see a photo ID when customers purchase items with a credit card. Laws also require retailers to ask to see ID when customers purchase certain items such as alcohol or cigarettes which are available at many grocery stores.

According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, a total of 34 states have laws requesting or requiring voters to show some form of identification at the polls, all of which are in force as of May 2018. Seventeen states ask for a photo ID such as a driver’s license or other forms of ID such as a state-issued identification card while the other 17 states accept non-photo IDs.

The remaining 16 states use other methods to verify the identity of voters such as a signature.

Proponents of voter ID say it helps prevent voter impersonation at the polls while opponents say this type of fraud is rare.


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Brackite wrote:
"You know if you go out and you want to buy groceries you need a picture on a card -- you need ID. … In this country, the only time you don’t need it, in many cases, is when you want to vote for a president, when you want to vote for a senator, when you want to vote for a governor or a congressman."


Trump's just out of touch. He probably hasn't ever purchased his own groceries. And even if my local grocery store required an ID to buy a box of Lucky Charms, that's their right as a private business. I don't have a constitutional rught to purchase Lucky Charms from a private business.
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If Donald Trump wants us to believe that he believes acting Presidential is boring, I believe him. Not acting Presidential may make you an iconoclast, but it does not mean you're great.

It strikes me that Trump is treats America like a Television show audience. He has his viewership, his followers, and as long as he keeps up his ratings with his core group, he really doesn't care if the rest of America can't stand the show. Trump has given up working with Congress to pass legislation. Increasingly he works by executive order. This is the Trump show, not the Republican show.

Keeping with the television analogy, sweeps week is coming the first week in November.

And I'd like some clarification: if what Trump does is hard, does he actually work hard?

How many times has Trump played golf as President of the United States? Since taking office on Jan. 20, 2017, Mr. Trump has reportedly been on the grounds of his golf courses or played golf elsewhere 135 times since becoming President, and that's as of July 29, 2018.

The cost of Trump's golf rounds to the American taxpayer varies by round and course, but it has totaled so far in the tens of millions of dollars.

He previously was on pace to visit his golf clubs more than 650 times in an eight-year presidency. As of Nov. 26, he's currently on track to spend 772 days on his courses while in office over eight years, assuming he wins re-election and completes both terms. Through Sept. 23, 2017, Trump was on an 8-year pace of 759 days at his golf clubs.

Trump has spent nearly 22 percent of his days in office at one of his golf properties for some portion of the day. There have been days where Trump has visited one of his golf clubs and not played golf. He made a 40-minute visit to his Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va., and he has made a three-day visit to Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., to watch the 2017 US Women's Open, unfolding at that club. Trump spent a 17-day "working vacation" at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J., in August, which meant all of those days count as days on his golf courses, even though he didn't necessarily play golf on all of those days.
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MeDotOrg wrote:If Donald Trump wants us to believe that he believes acting Presidential is boring, ...

I think Trump realizes that acting like a goofball will get him higher ratings on TV and with AM talk show listeners, and possibly endear himself to fans of the late great Benny Hill.

On the international stage, these actions make him a despised caricature of humanities lowest common denominator.
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If groceries includes alcohol you'll get carded no matter how you pay. I don't understand the point of trying to ridicule how Trump talks rather than hear his obviously intended meaning and acknowledge the simple point he's making. It's perfectly reasonable to expect ID for voting. Y'all just come across as being very unreasonable people carrying on the way you do.
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Water Dog wrote:It's perfectly reasonable to expect ID for voting.

It's reasonable if you accept reasonable forms of ID, like Student ID, or if valid ID was issued to every citizen. Otherwise, you're just suppressing the vote because you know the people who have that kind of ID don't favor your idiotic cult party, and you can't win in a fully open democratic system.
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Would very conservative voters feel put upon if they were asked to show a library card?
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Some Schmo wrote:It's reasonable if you accept reasonable forms of ID, like Student ID, or if valid ID was issued to every citizen. Otherwise, you're just suppressing the vote because you know the people who have that kind of ID don't favor your idiotic cult party, and you can't win in a fully open democratic system.

I don't disagree. Nobody is arguing for anything else.
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moksha wrote:Would very conservative voters feel put upon if they were asked to show a library card?

Dude... nice.

*hearty lol*
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