Hierarchy - Is This at the Center of the Lib/Con Debate?

[_honorentheos]

Again, not interested in discussion.

This would be more meaningful if you ever had been.

[_Ceeboo]

Again, not interested in discussion.

This would be more meaningful if you ever had been.

It wasn't intended to be meaningful. It was intended to be informative........ Because you started a thread and mentioned my name several times in the thread. I hadn't been on the board for a while so when I saw your invitations, I wanted to let you know, for several reasons, that I wasn't interested in taking you up on your invitations. I'm not interested.

Again, perhaps dog is willing to have an exchange with you. I'm not.

[_honorentheos]

By meaningful, I meant it matters in some way. The statement has no meaningful consequence given the past did not include intention to discuss based on observed behavior and you are reiterating you are not now interested in discussion. I would feel like an apology were in order if you were being deterred from contributing. You weren't, you aren't, and your choice now is just another version of your choice then.

In my mind, being an adult includes reflecting on and recognizing one's own responsibility in the way relationships play out. That would include online ones. I'm not sugar coating my views on how you behaved or are behaving because you are capable of adult behavior if you so choose to do so. Go through that thread, ceebs, and see how many people were calling out your non-participation long before Schmo vented at you. His was vulgar but far from alone.

Get over yourself, buddy.

[_Ceeboo]

By meaningful, I meant it matters in some way. The statement has no meaningful consequence given the past did not include intention to discuss based on observed behavior and you are reiterating you are not now interested in discussion.

By not interested in discussion, I meant that I am not interested in discussion with you. You have made your personal opinions of me, your personal observations of me and your personal views of my unwillingness to discuss things on this board crystal clear at this point. I'm not sure what is motivating you to continue beating this dead horse but it does not change my total lack of interest to engage.

Again, perhaps the other member you extended the invitation to will accept. I passed.

Why not wait for dog to respond? I already did.

[_honorentheos]

By meaningful, I meant it matters in some way. The statement has no meaningful consequence given the past did not include intention to discuss based on observed behavior and you are reiterating you are not now interested in discussion.

By not interested in discussion, I meant that I am not interested in discussion with you. You have made your personal opinions of me, your personal observations of me and your personal views of my unwillingness to discuss things on this board crystal clear at this point. I'm not sure what is motivating you to continue beating this dead horse but it does not change my total lack of interest to engage.

Again, perhaps the other member you extended the invitation to will accept. I passed.

Why not wait for dog to respond? I already did.

Because I've always been interesting in discussing things with you, which is why I answer your questions in your threads despite experience saying you'll acknowledge there was a response but not actually engage with it in discussion. I still am. I'm just being open in calling out this issue with discussion you have and always seem to have had on the board. It's odd you can't take the time to see if you may actually be doing the thing so many posters on the board have pointed out. Kevin Graham described how the thread would go long before we got to Schmo's post because we've been down that same road so many times.

I engaged you and I do now because behind all the smilies and other faux-politeness is someone whose views I'd be interested in engaging and having mine sincerely engaged. I'm a dick on this board quite often. But I'd like to think I also meet those who are civil with civility. Regardless, I try to make an honest attempt to understand someone's views rather than just assume I know what they think. I'm just being honest with you, ceebs.

[_Ceeboo]

It's odd you can't take the time to see if you may actually be doing the thing so many posters on the board have pointed out.

What's exceptionally odd is the height of confidence that you display in yourself - and have in yourself - to exhibit such personal confidence that I have not taken the time to reflect on this accusation (and more). In addition to other things, this seems to be a pattern of yours and in my opinion, it is certainly not one of your best traits.

I try to make an honest attempt to understand someone's views rather than just assume I know what they think.

While I'm not very confident that you will believe this, I do the exact same.

by the way: After some time away from the board, I logged on this morning to do a little reading - I wasn't intending on participating in any threads. The only reason I responded to this thread was because you brought me up a few times in your thread and I wanted to let you know I wasn't interested in engaging you or your OP. I'm still not.

Why don't you wait for dog? He might be willing.

[_Some Schmo]

Man, people playing the victim card has gotten old. And it almost always comes from someone who purports to believe in personal responsibility (for everyone else, apparently).

[_honorentheos]

It's odd you can't take the time to see if you may actually be doing the thing so many posters on the board have pointed out.

What's exceptionally odd is the height of confidence that you display in yourself - and have in yourself - to exhibit such personal confidence that I have not taken the time to reflect on this accusation (and more).

I'm basing my views on what I'm seeing, ceebs. We must approach things very differently then. I would think if you had spent time reflecting on this you would at least be attempting to follow a different approach?

In addition to other things, this seems to be a pattern of yours and in my opinion, it is certainly not one of your best traits.

I can live with that. This board is a place for engaging, having one's thoughts engaged, and finding out where one's views are flawed in my opinion. It works well for that purpose.

I try to make an honest attempt to understand someone's views rather than just assume I know what they think.

While I'm not very confident that you will believe this, I do the exact same.

Ok. I'm telling you that this is not evident in how you then respond to people. Or don't as the case may be.

[_Maksutov]

[_Jersey Girl]

If you had taken time to communicate when the situation took place or shortly after, this would have likely been resolved one way or another. Instead there are now 5 posts (I counted) saying how you're not interested, ceebs, when obviously you have unfinished business to address and you're right back at square one.

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