1984 in 2018

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Re: 1984 in 2018

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The outrage for Jones' behalf by guys who promote a president who regularly decries "fake news" and attacks the legitimate news media trying to stifle reporting trying to promote his personal un reality as fact, is a bizarre irony.

If this had happened to the hufpost waterdog would be cheering.
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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SteelHead wrote:The outrage for Jones' behalf by guys who promote a president who regularly decries "fake news"

Right, because the media is a special, protected class. And President doesn't have free speech. The delight for seeing Jones censored by guys who express fear of an autocratic president censoring speech. Yet the only actual censorship is coming from which team?
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schreech wrote:These people have literally lost the ability to think rationally as this is one of the stupidest things I have read here in a long time ...

Not only have folks parroting this line lost the ability to think rationally, but they long ago trashed their own integrity by actively pushing a double standard at every opportunity where their narrow interests could be served via disinformation, manipulation and outright falsehood.

Would Dog can step up and tell us why Facebook has to promote Jones’ ‘Sandy Hook is a Lie’ BS? He won’t, because he knows that Jones doesn’t even believe it, either.

Sure is hard to play that game without looking like an insufferable, whiny snowflake, though. Lol.
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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Water Dog wrote:
schreech wrote:...this is one of the stupidest things I have read here in a long time and that is saying a lot considering we have full blow hood wearing, sister diddling racists and barely literate, holocaust denying basement dwellers posting here regularly.

You're comparing this debate to holocaust denial and incest? Oh my, how long is your nose that you can't see past it? Mark my words, this issue is going to end up at the Supreme Court. As it already has in the past when the issue was far less consequential.


Your reading comprehension is not very good. Maybe that is the entire problem here, you don't understand what you are reading and responding to - that would go a long way to explaining your posts.

Water Dog wrote:
The public forum doctrine protects speech in, and a speaker's right of access to, spaces that fulfill an important communicative function in the community. This Part explores the doctrine, and in particular, its application by courts protecting speakers' access rights to property that, while private, plays a vital role as an arena for discourse. The paradigmatic example of a public forum on private property has been the modem shopping center.
...

Under the doctrine of PruneYard Shopping Center v. Robins, cable systems can be construed as public forums. Such a designation represents, in this context, a minor restriction on the property and speech rights of the cable operator.


http://www.nyulawreview.org/sites/defau ... nglass.pdf


And you immediately validate what I posted above. What does this have to do with any private social media company on the internet? Dude, you are really, really trying to make this argument work but all the hand waving, illogical attempts to compare unrelated things and your ability to somehow selectively ignore that these companies have been doing this since their inception is kind of feeble. You are just wrong. What is sad is that you, a supposed conservative, is expecting the govt to step in and regulate what private companies do and don't allow. Here is yet another area that im more conservative than you trumpsters. You have lost all credibility as a conservative if you support Trump and this type of regulation of free enterprise. You are just a blind faith Trump apologist at this point with no real spine or position beyond supporting the cheeto-in-chief cult of personality.

ETA - I have ownership in a large web hosting company, we don't host porn sites for various reasons, am I infringing on the rights of porn suppliers?
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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Water Dog wrote:
SteelHead wrote:The outrage for Jones' behalf by guys who promote a president who regularly decries "fake news"

Right, because the media is a special, protected class.

So you're saying Alex Jones is not the media... or is he included in that "special protected class?"

Are you trying to say that the media doesn't deserve special treatment but Jones does?

You might try thinking this stuff through before talking about it publicly.

Or not. Probably not.
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canpakes wrote:
schreech wrote:These people have literally lost the ability to think rationally as this is one of the stupidest things I have read here in a long time ...

Not only have folks parroting this line lost the ability to think rationally, but they long ago trashed their own integrity by actively pushing a double standard at every opportunity where their narrow interests could be served via disinformation, manipulation and outright falsehood.

Would Dog can step up and tell us why Facebook has to promote Jones’ ‘Sandy Hook is a Lie’ BS? He won’t, because he knows that Jones doesn’t even believe it, either.

Sure is hard to play that game without looking like an insufferable, whiny snowflake, though. Lol.


No kidding. The number of ways I am more conservative than the typical trumpster seems to be adding up daily. At what point can we no longer call Trump supporters "conservative"?
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canpakes wrote:...step up and tell us why Facebook has to promote ....

perhaps you could tell us "why not"?
Is there some sort of hidden morality/integrity in Facebook ? Is Facebook some bastion of something yet to be revealed ?

I mean, granted I am all about that tasty freedom, but why care what Facebook promotes or does not promote? Does Jones being on YouTube cause you much hand-wringing?
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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Some Schmo wrote:
You might try thinking this stuff through before talking about it publicly.

Or not. Probably not.

Nothing about this is intended to be a serious commentary by Dog, regarding any serious matter that he actually takes seriously.

This BS only exists to undermine things or people that he - and by extension, Jones - doesn’t agree with, in order to serve only their own interests.

There is nothing about this charade that is actually about the First Amendment, or any other BS excuse dreamed up to cloak the actual intent.
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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:...step up and tell us why Facebook has to promote ....

perhaps you could tell us "why not"?
Is there some sort of hidden morality/integrity in Facebook ? Is Facebook some bastion of something yet to be revealed ?

I mean, granted I am all about that tasty freedom, but why care what Facebook promotes or does not promote? Does Jones being on YouTube cause you much hand-wringing?

I figured that it was about time that the guy who pushes the Clinton Kill List would show up.

Your apparent concern in your first paragraph is answered by yourself in your second paragraph. You’re done, now. ; )
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Re: 1984 in 2018

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:...step up and tell us why Facebook has to promote ....

perhaps you could tell us "why not"?
Is there some sort of hidden morality/integrity in Facebook ? Is Facebook some bastion of something yet to be revealed ?

I mean, granted I am all about that tasty freedom, but why care what Facebook promotes or does not promote? Does Jones being on YouTube cause you much hand-wringing?


I know you are mentally challenged and all and I actually feel bad even interacting with someone as deficient as you because it always makes you look like such a shallow, incoherent tool, but how about because its part of their terms of service which, as a private company, they can write and regulate however the fook they want.

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People will only build community on Facebook if they feel safe. We employ dedicated teams around the world and develop advanced technical systems to detect misuse of our Products, harmful conduct towards others, and situations where we may be able to help support or protect our community. If we learn of content or conduct like this, we will take appropriate action - for example, offering help, removing content, blocking access to certain features, disabling an account, or contacting law enforcement. We share data with other Facebook Companies when we detect misuse or harmful conduct by someone using one of our Products. "
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