It is tough to say, I imagine Cohen is mostly dead to Trump giving the implications of his plea. To Cohen's credit he says he would not accept a pardon from Trump. Obviously easy to say ahead of it happening, maybe a bit harder to turn down in the moment.Gunnar wrote:Now that Cohen has confessed to committing crimes at Trump's direction and Manafort is a convicted felon, I wonder if Trump will be foolish enough to pardon them, and any other former advisors convicted of committing crimes on his behalf. I have very little doubt that he is actually that stupid.
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Well if we believe his lawyer on Morning Joe today looks like we have our answer: "Cohen's lawyer says he's completely flipped and will give information of Trump-linked conspiracy with Russia" .EAllusion wrote:He already implicated Trump in his guilty pleas. It’s unclear if he’ll cooperate to strengthen the case.
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Xenophon wrote:"Cohen's lawyer says he's completely flipped and will give information of Trump-linked conspiracy with Russia"
Man, the silence from Republicans on this is deafening. I guess it takes time to determine how long it will be before it dawns on enough people, "Hmmmm... I guess this Russia thing isn't a hoax."
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Xenophon wrote:Well if we believe his lawyer on Morning Joe today looks like we have our answer: "Cohen's lawyer says he's completely flipped and will give information of Trump-linked conspiracy with Russia" .EAllusion wrote:He already implicated Trump in his guilty pleas. It’s unclear if he’ll cooperate to strengthen the case.
Well, in that case it at least seems highly unlikely that Trump will offer Cohen a pardon, but Manafort is a slightly different kettle of fish. I would not be at all surprised if Trump offerred him a pardon, and even less doubt that he would eagerly accept it, if offered. He is probably counting on it and praying for it!
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Kevin Graham wrote:I'm watching again and he's not talking about it. Instead he's talking about how "Democrat extremism" is going to backfire in November and he's hosting Dana Perino who is just blasting Leftists. Are you watching FOX News West Coast or something? I think they have two kinds.
I just googled "Cohen pleads guilty" and the first FOX article on the subject is on page three and it is titled "Michael Cohen admits violating campaign finance laws in plea deal, agrees to 3-5 year sentence". I haven't seen them discuss it on live shows yet. We'll see.
Not Tucker Carlson. Let me see if I can dig up a link to what I saw. It was that one reporter who sits front row at the White House press briefings. I don't know anything much about FOX television. I don't watch television to begin with.
ETA: Wait a sec. Maybe it was CNN. I'll try to find what I was talking about anyway.
ETA: John Roberts/FOX
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Kevin I think it was this. In any case, it was this reporter John Roberts.
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Xenophon wrote:Well if we believe his lawyer on Morning Joe today looks like we have our answer: "Cohen's lawyer says he's completely flipped and will give information of Trump-linked conspiracy with Russia" .EAllusion wrote:He already implicated Trump in his guilty pleas. It’s unclear if he’ll cooperate to strengthen the case.
Trump spoke with Fox News about Cohen. In the interview, Trump said that he thinks "flipping" (i.e. cooperating with prosecutors) should be illegal.
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Of course he also said that violating campaign finance law was... wait for it... not illegal either. If this was a T.V. show we would all be blasting it for its over the top ridiculousness.Doctor Steuss wrote:Trump spoke with Fox News about Cohen. In the interview, Trump said that he thinks "flipping" (i.e. cooperating with prosecutors) should be illegal.
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Dream on. I figure we'll have Trump moon us from the Marine One helicopter to out-Nixon Nixon.

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