A taste of Prager U

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I literally posted an itemized list the campaign released, and it rebuts effectively every accusation. Remind me to never accept investing advice from you all, the ROI on Kemp's attempt to suppress a few hundred votes is awful. I'd feel bad for you, but you keep finding ways to be more and more awful and obtuse.

When race baiters rush into a story without checking the facts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/c ... ssissippi/

- Doc

[_honorentheos]

I literally posted an itemized list the campaign released, and it rebuts effectively every accusation. Remind me to never accept investing advice from you all, the ROI on Kemp's attempt to suppress a few hundred votes is awful. I'd feel bad for you, but you keep finding ways to be more and more awful and obtuse.

- Doc

It's nice to see you make attempt after attempt to get back up on the horse, even if reading comprehension and logic keeps bucking you off and seems to have your number. Keep at it, big guy!

While you're restin' yer rump between kickin's, visualize yourself reading this and identifying the relevant facts in context of the overall discussion. They say visualizing helps.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/11/opin ... cracy.html

I know, the sitting and active SoS of Georgia who has been engaged in vote suppression for years and is in a competitive race with a black women for the Governor's seat should be taken at his word and all but anything that has to do with race is fake news, amiright?

[_canpakes]

Alternately, if the disabled can participate 100% in voting without needing to set foot in a polling station, why would pollling stations need to be shut down for not being ADA compatible? ; )

Well. According to my paralyzed brother he likes to get out of the for things. I personally think he should be a recluse, but apparently disabled people have lives or something.

- Doc

Lol. Staaaahp.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/11/opin ... cracy.html

I love that you posted a link to an article you clearly didn't read. And this is what it's like talking with emotional babies when it comes to race issues. They just can't keep their bullshkt straight.

FYI, it's a good thing you get a voter purge notice if you filed a change of address. You shouldn't be voting in districts in which you don't live. But then again, common sense and rules are just low-key raaaycism.



- Doc

[_honorentheos]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/11/opin ... cracy.html

I love that you posted a link to an article you clearly didn't read. And this is what it's like talking with emotional babies when it comes to race issues. They just can't keep their ____ straight.

FYI, it's a good thing you get a voter purge notice if you filed a change of address. You shouldn't be voting in districts in which you don't live. But then again, common sense and rules are just low-key raaaycism.



- Doc

What a great idea! Putting up a post that makes for a very nice internet How2 on the right v. wrong way to deal with someone citing a source. What a swell!

So, let's get started. Going back, EA made a comment about Georgia voter suppression, here:
viewtopic.php?p=1138648#p1138648

Georgia is systematically closing down polling locations in areas with large black population density. It’s also finding way to systematically purge black voters from registration lists. The suppressive effect of this is large enough to be old timey Jim Crow levels of disenfranchisement.

Cam claims that a quick Google search proved EA was overstating things and didn't know what he was talking about, here:
viewtopic.php?p=1138657#p1138657

It took two seconds to google the issue. 3 out of 8 were in majority black precincts, one was closed because no one showed up, and the other was moved because of fear of black on black violence. Most people aren't even voting at polling stations now. EAllusion crapping out this kind of lying and disingenous nonsense that infects our Party is exactly the problem, and good people like Canpakes gobbles it up. It takes an inordinate amount of time to fact check and counter these lies, and when yoh do people like EAllusion are onto the next one. Basically he and his ilk are Leftist Trump's.

This is the game, and this is why bridging the divide will never happen.

That last sentence is all the more clearly illuminating Cam's view of this as we've gone on, but that's jumping ahead.

It didn't take too long to realize he was misrepresenting the information in the source he ultimately claimed to have read:
viewtopic.php?p=1138668#p1138668

Clearly, quoting Cam's post side-by-side with information from his source showed he either intentionally misrepresented the information it contained (because he considers it a game, perhaps?) or severely misread it.

Here's what you said -

It took two seconds to google the issue. 3 out of 8 were in majority black precincts, one was closed because no one showed up, and the other was moved because of fear of black on black violence. Most people aren't even voting at polling stations now. EAllusion crapping out this kind of lying and disingenous nonsense that infects our Party is exactly the problem, and good people like Canpakes gobbles it up. It takes an inordinate amount of time to fact check and counter these lies, and when yoh do people like EAllusion are onto the next one. Basically he and his ilk are Leftist Trump's.

This is the game, and this is why bridging the divide will never happen.

- Doc

Here's what your source said regarding, "3 out of 8 were in majority black precincts, one was closed because no one showed up, and the other was moved because of fear of black on black violence."

Dozens of polling places have closed, consolidated or moved across Georgia since the last presidential election, worrying some voter advocates over how that might affect turnout heading into this year’s contest.

Maybe by reading an entire article in 2 seconds you conflated it with the discussion on one particular county where the number 8 showed up?

In Macon-Bibb County, several of the eight polling locations closed since last year were in majority-black communities — a point exacerbated by the attempt to use the Sheriff’s Office building as a polling site. Local election officials cited concerns over violence in proposing the move, but Westbrooks — who used to live in the community near Memorial Gym and is now president of the Macon-Bibb NAACP chapter — said it sent “the wrong message” among residents who had raised concerns about local law enforcement in recent years.

The voting precinct has since been relocated twice and will now be placed permanently at a church.

Macon-Bibb County Elections Officer Tom Gillon said the closures were based on budget cuts, stemming from the merger two years ago of what had been separate city and county governments. The county has dropped from 40 to 32 polling locations.

Or maybe not.

Local officials say the closures are money-savers and more efficient, especially at a time when there is increased access to early voting. Some voter activists, however, fear it is a tactic to limit voting access, especially for the state’s minorities.

Proposals to close voting precincts in counties including Macon-Bibb, Hancock and Upson have all raised the ire of activists. Other counties have considered changes but either haven’t acted on them or have passed on the idea.

“There were many factors that influenced our decision, but none of them had anything to do with race or making it more difficult for anyone to vote,” said Robert Haney, the chairman of the Upson County Board of Elections, which cut its polling sites from nine to four. Haney said reasons for the cuts included security and a struggle to find qualified poll workers.

The estimated savings, he said, would be between $15,000 and $20,000. And the use of early voting in Upson, he said, meant about half of voters normally cast ballots before Election Day, anyway. “That factored greatly into our decision,” Haney said.

Turns out the issue is not what you claimed, much of the rational being cited is based on "cost savings", and as mentioned in the ACLU complaint it's suspicious as ____ that this is happening with an election weeks away where a black candidate could become the first female black governor.

Noting that this was back on page 10, one will notice the consistent argument that Cam is not only crap with sourcing, but he is also either missing or ignoring the issues around the SoS of Georgia running against who could become the first black female governor.

So, we now have Cam saying I didn't read the source I cited without actually doing anything to substantiate his claim. Probably because it wouldn't be inconsistent with my comments. But don't take my word for it. Here are a few quotes from that source:

Shortly before the election, the president endorsed Mr. Kemp, and the political tide turned. He has a skill set that Mr. Trump desperately needed but was curiously silent about in his endorsement: He is a master of voter suppression.

Voter suppression keeps Georgia a red state. Since 2005, Republicans have controlled the State Legislature as well as the governor’s office. Now most of the congressional districts are Republican. So are nearly 64 percent of the state representatives and 66 percent of the state senators.

Hackable polling machines, voter roll purges, refusing to register voters until after an election, the use of investigations to intimidate groups registering minorities to vote — Mr. Kemp knows it all.

That political power, however, bears no relation to the state’s demographics. Whites make up less than 60 percent of the state’s population but more than 90 percent of people who voted Republican in the primary. The state’s gerrymandered districts, drawn and redrawn by the Republican-dominated Legislature, mirror the inordinate and disproportionate power of this constituency.

But a change is coming. Black voter turnout, despite the barriers, is increasing — energized by a growing antipathy toward President Trump and his vision for and of African-Americans. Moreover, as the Pew Hispanic Trust reported, the ranks of the Republican Party are declining. In 2016, whites made up 57 percent of all registered voters in Georgia, down from 68 percent in 2004.

That’s why Mr. Kemp has worked diligently to fortify the Republicans’ crumbling bulwark since he became secretary of state in 2010. He has begun investigations into organizations that registered nearly 200,000 new Asian-American and African-American voters — efforts that resulted in the first majority-black school board in a small town.

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Mr. Trump’s endorsement, therefore, was no surprise. Mr. Kemp had pulled off an incredible feat: Georgia’s population increased, but since 2012, the number of registered voters has decreased. He, like Mr. Trump, has been steadfast in riding the voter-fraud train, regardless of how often and thoroughly the claim has been debunked. His work has winnowed out minorities who overwhelmingly vote Democratic and so threaten the Republican stranglehold on Georgia.

A Kemp victory in November is, therefore, transactional but essential for Mr. Trump. It means that there will be a governor, in a state that demographically should be blue, who is practiced and steeped in the nuances of disfranchisement. Mr. Kemp can rubber-stamp the Legislature’s voter-suppression bills that privilege the Republican Party, artificially increase the Republican representation in Congress and in the end protect a president facing mounting evidence of graft, corruption, conspiracy and the threat of impeachment.

The article substantiates EA's comment, it underscores why voter suppression in Georgia is a national issue, and demonstrates how involved the SoS of Georgia who is the current Republican candidate has been for almost a decade in voter suppression activities.

If Cam's aim was to look even more like an ass getting kicked off the horse of logic and reading comprehension, then mission accomplished. But hey, Cam! Keep up making unsupported claims that are easy to demonstrate as being wrong. Some people's purpose in life is to serve as an example of what not to do for others it seems.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I know it takes more than the emotional range of a blastula to understand you were manipulated into believing j!m Cr○w $@yz Bl4cK P3oPl3 kenT v0+€!!!! Wake me up when you and your other White Knight (ha) buddies can answer:

How many polling stations have been closed across Georgia?

How many polling stations have been opened across Georgia?

Where are they all located?

How many are there in total?

How many Black voters have been registered as compared to 2016?

Bizarre.

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

This thread explains why MsJack has had Cam on ignore for years. Time to follow suit.

[_honorentheos]

I know it takes more than the emotional range of a blastula to understand ...

- Doc

Thinking emotions are what helps one understand something explains a lot about why you keep getting bucked off.

[Guest]

I'm not the one that posted article claiming voter suppression because *gasp* people aren't allowed to commit voter fraud. crap, even I have to update my registration here in Utah if I move, and I'm *wringing hands* WHITE.

Oh, Lord have mercy on all our souls! The racists in Georgia think you should have to update your registration if you move otherwise you'll be booted off the rolls.

And, just to throw you a bone, I agree 100% that the GOP is rigging the game with Congressional districts all across our nation. They're doing it here in Utah where it's mostly *gulp* WHITE PEOPLE. That's why I helped gather signatures for this initiative:

https://betterboundaries.org

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

I know it takes more than the emotional range of a blastula to understand ...

- Doc

Thinking emotions are what helps one understand something explains a lot about why you keep getting bucked off.