Tucker Carlson and Avenatti go at it
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Or maybe he'd be sad because his wife was having sex with other people when he'd prefer her to be in a monogamous relationship like they agreed upon. But no, he must feel sad because he views porn as a dishonorable profession. Only possibility. Likewise, having unprotected sex with affair partners is generally even worse because it exposes people to the possibility of STD's or unwanted pregnancies outside the relationship regardless of what profession that person is in. You don't need that person to be in porn to reach that conclusion, though if you assume that porn makes it more likely, then yeah, it's even worse when doing that with a porn star.
That doesn't mean porn is inherently bad or disgusting. It just means that porn carries with it a particular kind of risk. I question whether there is that much of an elevated risk, but acknowledging it if there were doesn't mean is a morally wrong thing to do any more than saying coal miners are more likely to get lung disease is a moral condemnation of coal miners. Exposing your partners to increased STD risk without their consent; however, is morally wrong.
Hey Kevin - How would you feel if your wife was having sex with lots of other people, but wasn't doing it for money. Still sad? What if your wife was having unprotected sex with those people without your knowledge? Would that be fine? Yes or no?
That doesn't mean porn is inherently bad or disgusting. It just means that porn carries with it a particular kind of risk. I question whether there is that much of an elevated risk, but acknowledging it if there were doesn't mean is a morally wrong thing to do any more than saying coal miners are more likely to get lung disease is a moral condemnation of coal miners. Exposing your partners to increased STD risk without their consent; however, is morally wrong.
Hey Kevin - How would you feel if your wife was having sex with lots of other people, but wasn't doing it for money. Still sad? What if your wife was having unprotected sex with those people without your knowledge? Would that be fine? Yes or no?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:EAllusion wrote:Saying something is an attempt at slut shaming is not calling the target of that slut shaming a slut. The term does not refer to shaming people who are sluts. It refers to condemning people for not behaving or dressing according to expected sexual norms (when doing so is victimless).
Your reasoning is based either on dishonesty or ignorance of what the phrase even means.
Aaaaand there it is again. I wonder why using a negative perjorative to describe someone is used as the device to shame them, and then THAT is somehow acceptable to use by anti-moralists (or nu-moralists)?
Next thing we know EAllusion is going to be slinging around terms like k***-shaming, f*****-shaming, n*****-shaming, because, you know, the word slut is such an acceptable insult to just be typing out over, and over, and over again.
____ Christ, this guy.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut-shaming
The pearl clutching over a common term that is used to condemn disparaging people, mostly women, as sluts, based on either a deliberate or stubborn ignorance of what the term means or why it exists, is not the expert argument or trolling you seem to view it as.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:THANK YOU.
I assume, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that you'd feel sad because you view the work as dishonorable? Or immoral? Whatever word you want to use to describe your feelings on the work itself probably carries a negative connotation for you.
Nope, I just can't stand the thought of someone else doinking my wife.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:See. You're in a pickle here when making a value judgement against Tucker Carlson:
Was he married to Stormy Daniels?
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Kevin Graham wrote:Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:THANK YOU.
I assume, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that you'd feel sad because you view the work as dishonorable? Or immoral? Whatever word you want to use to describe your feelings on the work itself probably carries a negative connotation for you.
Nope, I just can't stand the thought of someone else doinking my wife.
nothing negative in that thought, amiright? not a morally judgmental hair on that Freudian head, amiright?
nope, such a possessive position is perfectly normal for a modern progressive man.
Repulsed at the thought? not a bit, because "repulsion" is a Republican thang.
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subgenius wrote:Kevin Graham wrote:... I just can't stand the thought of someone else doinking my wife.
nothing negative in that thought, amiright? not a morally judgmental hair on that Freudian head, amiright?
nope, such a possessive position is perfectly normal for a modern progressive man.
Repulsed at the thought? not a bit, because "repulsion" is a Republican thang.
You always display an incredibly two-dimensional mode of thinking. Here, I'd almost conclude that you were a repressed virgin had I not read you admitting in past days to having at least one child, but perhaps that development happened completely accidentally, and you are still befuddled by the process.
But I digress. Consider that the desire of one person to be in a committed and exclusive relationship with another individual does not confer a shame or moral failure of either should one of them not opt for exclusivity.
Anyhow, enjoy your useless and hypocritical moral posturing. You and Tucker make great bedfellows.
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Kevin Graham wrote:http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/13/tucker-carlson-michael-avenatti-interview-creepy-porn-lawyer-battle-over-stormy-daniels
Tucker truly is human garbage. Now he's pretending he cares about Stormy and wanted to protect her from Avenatti's exploitation.
Avenatti got in some really great lines that just made Tucker shrivel up, not knowing how to respond. Like telling Tucker is is so ignorant that he doesn't even know Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to two felonies. "How can you be this ignorant and have your own news show"? And like constantly pointing out Trump screwed a porn star without a condom while his 4 months old son was nursing. Carslon didn't deny it and actually said he believed it to be true.
OK, so why the effing hell is he focused on attacking Avenatti for representing a Porn Star, and not interested in criticizing President whom he believes committed adultery with her? Which is the more newsworthy story?
I viewed this last night after reading your post. I don't recall ever watching him interview anyone. You don't take this clown seriously do you? He's a ridiculous blatherer.
He kept going on and on with nervous laughter, saying Avenatti is wearing expensive clothes while Stormy Daniels is still stripping. WTF? That's what she WANTS to do. Good God.
She simply went back to her job like the rest of the world does. She's a milionare with a new book coming out.
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Water Dog wrote:Stormy Daniels, pornographic actress, stripper, prostitute, blackmailer, a.k.a. Stephanie Clifford in real life, was slut shamed?
I've seen exactly nothing to lead me to believe that she's ever worked as a prostitute or black mailed anyone.
Regarding her line of work, do you think that someone who works in the porn industry or strips can't be slut shamed?
That's a bit like saying a hooker can't be raped.
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Isn't prostitution engaging in sexual activity for money?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Isn't prostitution engaging in sexual activity for money?
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Well, yeah. Why do you ask?
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