The republicans are putting my family in danger

[_honorentheos]

RES IPSA!!!!

Totally off topic, but it's nice to see you.

[_Res Ipsa]

Nice to see you, too.

[_DoubtingThomas]

Here you go Themis:

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/353/6296/242

What's fascinating to me is that ldsfaqs has an opinion on climate change at all. I mean, it's not surprising that he does given the political propaganda surrounding it. It's that a priori it's an scientific topic that he couldn't begin to comprehend and not something you'd expect him to care about in the abstract. It's the politics that draws him in and the right-wing think tanks filtering down to sources he consumes that have determined his opinion. You can see so plainly how someone like him's opinions were bought and paid for.

Or
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0158-3

[Guest]

People that have done actual "proper" studies on this subject, whether:
1. Storms are more frequent
2. Storms are more powerful

Have found that there is NO INCREASE in either for the last 100 years + of recorded history compared to now.
If you guys actually wanted the truth, you would look up those couple of studies.

"A highly significant global slowdown of tropical- cyclone translation speed is evident, of −10% over the 68-yr period 1949–2016" Kossin, James P. "A global slowdown of tropical-cyclone translation speed." Nature 558.7708 (2018): 104

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0158-3

Nobody said the total number of hurricanes is increasing, I said "slow hurricanes like Harvey are getting more common" according to the study I shared.

[_DoubtingThomas]

A study published on Science concludes that slow hurricanes like Harvey are getting more common. "A highly significant global slowdown of tropical- cyclone translation speed is evident, of −10% over the 68-yr period 1949–2016"

Kossin, James P. "A global slowdown of tropical-cyclone translation speed." Nature 558.7708 (2018): 104

It is well established in science that warmer oceans produce stronger hurricanes, so Global Warming can't **** be a good thing. I have a relative living in North Carolina. **** the Republicans!

Last time i checked it wasn't the Republicans or the Democrats that controlled the climate. For example, not only does Anerica have a minor influence on global temperatures, but it is people like yourself.

America is supposed to be a global leader, but it isn't doing jack .

[_canpakes]

“Over the past few years, the sea ice that surround the South Pole has steadily been growing.
This past September, at the end of the Southern Hemisphere’s winter, the extent of Antarctica’s sea ice reached 19.51 million square kilometers, breaking a 35-year record that dated back to the start of data being collected in 1978. (In comparison, from 1981 to 2010, the average extent on the same date was just 18.5 million square miles.)”

The record levels topped out around 2014 and then started decreasing. Peak ice occurs around September with low points occurring in our later winter in the northern hemisphere between February and March. And in March 2018,..."Sea ice cover in Antarctica has dropped to its second-lowest on record, Australian authorities said Friday" - as in March of this year (2018).

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-antarctic ... -year.html

Liberals with an Art History degree: 1
Amore: 0

[_subgenius]

America is supposed to be a global leader,

while this does not directly (or even indirectly) resolve the point, it is interesting to speculate as to why you believe this.

but it isn't doing jack .

perhaps and perhaps not....but the point was more specific than general. If this issue is as dramatic and dire as you would have us believe (a.k.a. your hair fire) then "physician heal thyself". Obviously your curbside recycling ain't getting it done, have you consider changing your life so as to completely omit the processes and products that result in climate change?

[_canpakes]

... the point was more specific than general. If this issue is as dramatic and dire as you would have us believe (a.k.a. your hair fire) then "physician heal thyself". Obviously your curbside recycling ain't getting it done, have you consider changing your life so as to completely omit the processes and products that result in climate change?

Your silly and hypocritical moral posturing aside, what do you believe that he should be doing as an antidote to the byproduct of the infrastructure that he lives within?

Lots of space below; let’s hear the ideas that would validate your babbling.

[_EAllusion]

The fun thing about international cooperation to curb carbon emissions to prevent catastrophic consequences for climate change and US political leadership in making that happen is there is a very tight counterpart in international cooperation to curb ozone depleting chemicals that has been mostly successful. Those international efforts were heavily buoyed by US leadership. That leadership was mostly during Republican control of the presidency - meaning Republican control of US foreign diplomacy and the EPA.

Republicans weren't always like this. There used to be a strong conservationist streak within the party going back at least as as far as Teddy Roosevelt, extending into the Nixon administration, and still present when George H.W. Bush was president. Crazy anti-environmentalism completely dominating the party is a new thing.

What happened is industry funded think tanks combined with the nascent right-wing media managed a very successful disinformation campaign and lobbying effort within conservative power structures such that by the time ozone action had happened and when it became very clear that efforts on carbon were needed, there was a major cultural change within the party. In some ways it was gradual, but because of the major gains in offices Republicans had in 1994, it almost feels like that is the year it all fell apart. In fact, by the mid '90's, Republicans were already dominated by ozone skeptics. It's just that institutional momentum stopped them from kneecapping what had been started in the 80's.

[_Res Ipsa]

In terms of climate policy, I’d say it all fell apart in 2001, when Bush reneged on his campaign promise. But I think it would be fair to say that the seeds were sown in 1994.