Wow. Did you really think this was good? I mean, good enough to post?
You would have to be a complete moron to think this is saying something relevant to climate change. It's right up there with bringing a snowball to the house floor. Way to expose your stupidity.
Christ, right wingers in this country are dumb.
Yeah, it's not like any idiot with two minutes and access to Google couldn't have learned that about a hundred glaciers have disappeared from Glacier National Park alone. Or seen any of thousands of pictures showing glacial retreat around the globe. Or read scientific reports on the accelerating loss of mass by glaciers as a whole.
But what do we get? A made up statistic and an Al Gore meme.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Thanks for the dose of science, Chap. The life cycle of a single hurricane is complex and can be affected by any number of factors. And the Category system we use is based on only one of the facets of the storms: sustained wind speed. That results in a ton of confusion about the "strength" of any individual storm.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Do you really believe glaciers have not disappeared and most others are not in retreat? I suppose I am fortunate in living in an area where glaciers are very close to home such that I can observe over the last number of decades how they have changed, and a number are gone and most of the others have been retreating. It's also not hard to look up information about other areas of the world and see if there is a pattern.
I notice the website for that meme is "Liberal Logic 101" (in an excellent font showing how serious they are).
This is one of those memes that makes me think, If I thought liberals believed the nonsense right wingers say liberals believe, I'd think liberals were crazy too. Of course, the right has as much a grip on liberal thought as they do... well, reality. Almost none.
The truth doesn't matter to these kinds of people. All that matters is how much nonsense they can make others believe, from religion to politics.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
And you have the gall to accuse others of searching the internet only for views that confirm their own! It is hard to believe that even conservatives can be so willfully ignorant as to not realize that glaciers are in massive retreat and disappearing all over the world. I know of almost nothing that is more thoroughly documented and publicly accessible than that!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
subgenius wrote:Yet, since 1995, in America the per capita annual carbon dioxide emissions has reduced by about 15% to 20%...and of the top 20 industrial carbon dioxide emitters...only 3 are American companies (with only 1 in the top 10 - #5 Exxon, #12 Chevron, #16 Peabody).
And being a skeptic of global warming prophecy is a more accurate characterization....of the 120 hurricanes that hit Florida since 1850, somehow it was last one that was because of AGW.
In addition to what has already been said, slowing the rate of incline in US total carbon emissions is not sufficient. Per capita is a useful number in some contexts, but not here. If we have more people, that's a problem. The US has only just recently gotten to the point of slightly lowering total carbon emissions. We are at the point where carbon emissions need to be rapidly reducing to get to a near zeroing out on net human contribution. Emitting a little less than we did annually than we did in 2002 is not going to cut it. Continuing to add to the problem is going to yield negative consequences and the pace is still towards severely negative consequences. I am arguing in the post you are responding to that different US leadership would have resulted in being much closer to this goal both domestically and internationally. You continue to ignore the fact that the US has the capacity to influence the policies of other nations even though I'm reaching directly to a comparable example in curtailing CFC emissions due to ozone depletion. US scientists and diplomats were leaders in producing international agreements that not only reduced US contributions, but also reduced contributions from other areas in the world. Continuing to write, as you do even after this post, as though Americans can only affect American pollution is simply false. Unfortunately, America has been a force towards thwarting international cooperation on climate change. We're not even neutral.
Glacier National Park is one of my favorite places ever. I've even thought of moving to Kalispell just to be closer to it. The glacial retreat is rapid. The vast majority of its glaciers have already disappeared. Of those left, they are in noticeable retreat overall. It's so stunning that it's a depressing aspect of visiting there.
But the damage there is comparatively mild to glacial retreat in the Himalayas. It's extensive and with each passing year of increased global temperatures we get a little closer to when the meltwater from those glaciers that sustains several major river systems that billions of people depend on is going to start collapsing. A Syrian refugee crisis involving numbers still in the thousands sparked a neo-fascist revival in Europe. Imagine what kind of geopolitical instability could come from a systemic collapse in populations around major river systems in the most populated parts of Asia.
Some Schmo wrote:Wow. Did you really think this was good? I mean, good enough to post?
You would have to be a complete moron to think this is saying something relevant to climate change. It's right up there with bringing a snowball to the house floor. Way to expose your stupidity.
Christ, right wingers in this country are dumb.
Yeah, it's not like any idiot with two minutes and access to Google couldn't have learned that about a hundred glaciers have disappeared from Glacier National Park alone. Or seen any of thousands of pictures showing glacial retreat around the globe. Or read scientific reports on the accelerating loss of mass by glaciers as a whole.
But what do we get? A made up statistic and an Al Gore meme.
Apparently Amore could just as well argue that an ice cube still qualifies as a small glacier.
The baseline intellectual content of conservative thought moves inversely to average temperature trends these days.
Some Schmo wrote:I notice the website for that meme is "Liberal Logic 101" (in an excellent font showing how serious they are).
This is one of those memes that makes me think, If I thought liberals believed the nonsense right wingers say liberals believe, I'd think liberals were crazy too. Of course, the right has as much a grip on liberal thought as they do... well, reality. Almost none.
The truth doesn't matter to these kinds of people. All that matters is how much nonsense they can make others believe, from religion to politics.
Exactly! all they have are stupid internet memes, not research studies.
