Kavanaugh and Perjury

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EAllusion wrote:Do you believe that 65 women knew you well enough in high school to write a letter 35 years later stating you definitely did not try to rape someone at a party? If you do, you are delusional.


Or if, more probably, you are intelligent enough to realise how implausible this is, but you still keep on pointing to the letter and saying "Hey! How d'ya like that, pussy-hat wearers?!?", you may reasonably be thought to be doing so for largely political motives.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:This is trash, and you know it is.

- Doc

I'm on the fence as far as the accusation itself goes. But Democrats, and Feinstein in particular, are definitely trash for how they've schemed to use this as a political weapon, with complete disregard for Kavanaugh and Stone.

Feinstein had received a copy of the letter all the way back in July. Eshoo probably had it before then. Feinstein sat on it. Didn't share it with colleagues, didn't share it with the committee, didn't share it with the FBI... she didn't give a rat's ass about the allegation itself. She just saw a political hand grenade, and I hope that some of the shrapnel ends up in her.
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Looks like Donald Trump tweeted one of Doc's arguments today:

https://Twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6473055235

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

As we all know, 15 year old girls definitely would report to the police all instances of attempted rape at a party in the early 80's. You know, when date raping drunk women was a light-hearted comedy set up in John Hughes movies. Couple a very stable geniuses we got here.
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EAllusion wrote:Looks like Donald Trump tweeted one of Doc's arguments today:

https://Twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 6473055235

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

As we all know, 15 year old girls definitely would report to the police all instances of attempted rape at a party in the early 80's.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/investig ... e3ae27048b

She said she locked herself in the bathroom and listened until she heard the boys “going down the stairs, hitting the walls.” She said that after five or 10 minutes, she unlocked the door and made her way through the living room and outside. She isn’t sure how she got home.

Ford said she has not spoken with Kavanaugh since that night. And she told no one at the time what had happened to her. She was terrified, she said, that she would be in trouble if her parents realized she had been at a party where teenagers were drinking, and she worried they might figure it out even if she did not tell them.

“My biggest fear was, do I look like someone just attacked me?” she said. She said she recalled thinking: “I’m not ever telling anyone this. This is nothing, it didn’t happen, and he didn’t rape me.”

Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.

“I think it derailed me substantially for four or five years,” she said. She struggled academically and socially, she said, and was unable to have healthy relationships with men. “I was very ill-equipped to forge those kinds of relationships.”

She also said that in the longer term, it contributed to anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder symptoms with which she has struggled.

She married her husband in 2002. Early in their relationship, she told him she had been a victim of physical abuse, he said. A decade later, he learned the details of that alleged abuse when the therapist asked her to tell the story, he said.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:You must be remembering Ms. Ford's classmate:

https://www.lifenews.com/2018/09/20/chr ... -its-true/

Speaking of Ms. Ford, I wonder why her yearbook was scrubbed off the Internet... :/

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It's as if you've never heard of doxxing or are unaware of what happens to the social media accounts of women who speak out about sexual harassment or assault by powerful men.
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Why did Feinstein sit on this letter fir six weeks?

Those who find this accusation credible enough to destroy this man's life are reprehensible, and I pray they never, not one time, find themselves on a jury. I'm totally astonished at what I'm seeijg on this board. Crazy.

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Two women who actually dated and remained friends with this vile monster:

https://youtu.be/HUPjXPatyEM

- Doc
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Bill Cosby is married. Donald Trump is married. Clearly they've never attempted to sexually assault anyone in their lives.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Two women who actually dated and remained friends with this vile monster:

https://youtu.be/HUPjXPatyEM

- Doc


It's also as if you've never actually met any actual human beings.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Why did Feinstein sit on this letter fir six weeks?

Those who find this accusation credible enough to destroy this man's life are reprehensible, and I pray they never, not one time, find themselves on a jury. I'm totally astonished at what I'm seeijg on this board. Crazy.

- Doc


Oh, there you go with the fainting couch again. Destroy his life? At worst, he'll still be a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals. More likely, his life will be as much destroyed as Clarence Thomas's was.
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