Kavanaugh and Perjury

[_EAllusion]

The fact the Ford also took a polygraph makes lie detector tests reliable because....

[_Res Ipsa]

what qualifies her as an "anti-trump activist." Do tell.

Do you know anything about Debra Katz and the other Democrat operatives that are advising and assisting Ms. Ford with regard to her strategy? Can you tell me why Feinstein hasn't released the original Ford letter in her possession?

I have a hard time believing you're this r____, so I'm just going to assume you're down with this nonsense hoping Kavanaugh will be sidelined. It ain't going to happen, but whatevs, counselor.

- Doc

Oh, so you’re pretending you can read my mind again. You’re lousy at it. But your notion that obtaining the services of a top lawyer in representing women in these circumstances makes one an anti-Trump activist is laughable nonsense. By your logic, isn’t the fact that Kavanaugh is being advised by people willing to try and publicly frame an innocent man evidence that he’s lying? Or is this only a problem if it’s a woman?

And I don’t hold Ford responsible for Feinstein’s actions. When Feinstein got the letter, she should have been brutally honest with Ford. She should have told her that if the substance of the letter were released, there was no way that Feinstein or the committee or God himself could protect her confidentiality or privacy. That she would be threatened and harassed, likely having to go into hiding to protect the safety of herself and her family, that some of the most powerful men in the country would conspire to do anything to smear and discredit her, because the most important thing is to protect the reputation of the man. Because here in 2018, apparently the most important thing in a sexual assault case is protecting the reputation of the man.

[_Brackite]

Bill Cosby is married. Donald Trump is married. Clearly they've never attempted to sexually assault anyone in their lives.

Yes, but Bill Cosby and Donald Trump along with Roy Moore had several women coming out stating that Cosby, Trump and Moore sexual assaulted them. To my knowledge, only one woman has come out against Judge Kavanaugh claiming that he sexually assaulted her way back in 1982. Right now, I don't really believe her, and I am mostly agreeing with the Doc in this thread.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

and I am mostly agreeing with the Doc in this thread.

Dude. Careful. You'll be assigned misogynist status if you do that. It doesn't matter if you vote for women, support Democrat women in office (for example, I'm voting for a Black woman and a Latino woman in the upcoming November elections for state legislature, in addition to having voted for a Gay woman for Mayor, and another woman for President). If you dare express skepticism for a political ploy you're done. You may want to distance yourself, uh, politically, from me.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Bill Cosby is married. Donald Trump is married. Clearly they've never attempted to sexually assault anyone in their lives.

Yes, but Bill Cosby and Donald Trump along with Roy Moore had several women coming out stating that Cosby, Trump and Moore sexual assaulted them. To my knowledge, only one woman has come out against Judge Kavanaugh claiming that he sexually assaulted her way back in 1982. Right now, I don't really believe her, and I am mostly agreeing with the Doc in this thread.

That comment was in specific response to Doc arguing that Kavanaugh had relationships with women who would stand by him as a demonstration he would not assault anyone. That’s also true of Bill Cosby. It’s not relevant to his innocence.

[_Brackite]

and I am mostly agreeing with the Doc in this thread.

Dude. Careful. You'll be assigned misogynist status if you do that. It doesn't matter if you vote for women, support Democrat women in office (for example, I'm voting for a Black woman and a Latino woman in the upcoming November elections for state legislature, in addition to having voted for a Gay woman for Mayor, and another woman for President). If you dare express skepticism for a political ploy you're done. You may want to distance yourself, uh, politically, from me.

- Doc

I am going to be voting for a bisexual woman for Senator this coming November election.

[_Gunnar]

I really hate the court of public opinion. We are not in a position to make a judgement.

That's. Hil-a-ri-ous considering Kavanaugh has been convicted of rape by half the country based off a politically motivated accusation.

Our accuser now wants, based on the strategy developed by her openly anti-trump lawyer (who is part of the 'resistamce'), ridiculous demands to be met before she testifies. This is such a circus clown moment for Democrats, and as demonstrated by the brainwashed partisans on this thread, it's not the facts that matter, but the accusation. It's disgusting.

That said, DT, a full scope poly is a background investigation that includes a polygraph; the very thing you just said isn't reliable is the thing Ms. Ford took, adminstered by a former FBI agent coordinated through her lawyer. These kinds of background investigations often include investigative agents talking to not only past friends, but they'll then get references to other friends from those friends. I have no idea how in depth Kavanaugh's background investigation was, but I suspect it was fairly thorough based on my own experience.

- Doc

[_DoubtingThomas]

That's. Hil-a-ri-ous considering Kavanaugh has been convicted of rape by half the country based off a politically motivated accusation. - Doc

Half of the country believes the earth was created in six days. The Hell what the general public thinks! Nobody here in Mormon discussions is convicting Kavanaugh.

Our accuser now wants, based on the strategy developed by her openly anti-trump lawyer (who is part of the 'resistamce'), ridiculous demands to be met before she testifies. This is such a circus clown moment for Democrats, and as demonstrated by the brainwashed partisans on this thread, it's not the facts that matter, but the accusation. It's disgusting.

Why is an investigation disgusting? All serious accusations need to be investigated. Kavanaugh is a suspect, but all suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

That said, DT, a full scope poly is a background investigation that includes a polygraph; the very thing you just said isn't reliable is the thing Ms. Ford took, adminstered by a former FBI agent coordinated through her lawyer. These kinds of background investigations often include investigative agents talking to not only past friends, but they'll then get references to other friends from those friends. I have no idea how in depth Kavanaugh's background investigation was, but I suspect it was fairly thorough based on my own experience.

- Doc

Jesus Christ read the research literature. Here is an article by the American Psychological Association with excellent citations. Polys are not reliable.
http://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx

And the investigations need to have a target. Kavanaugh was probably not investigated for a possible assault in high school.

[_ajax18]

Why is an investigation disgusting? All serious accusations need to be investigated. Kavanaugh is a suspect, but all suspects are innocent until proven guilty.

A suspect? When did the statute of limitations expire on this 35 year old case?

This must make you a little conflicted Doubting Thomas. On the one hand you're anti conservative and don't want to see another on the supreme court, which I understand though obviously don't share your desires. On the other hand you must see the where the tide of radical feminism is leading. Listen to Michael Savage if you're still unsure. Have you ever seen the Wicker man?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Jesus Christ read the research literature. Here is an article by the American Psychological Association with excellent citations. Polys are not reliable.

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And the investigations need to have a target. Kavanaugh was probably not investigated for a possible assault in high school.

DT,

I agreed with your point. That's why I said that Ms. Ford's polygraph, arranged by her activist lawyer, conducted by a former FBI agent, is BS.

As to why an investigation is disgusting is because the accused was 17-years-old and it in no way shape or form relates to the man today. The idea that people can be blown up by activists for something that's unprovable, from a party that took place 35 years ago is just filthy. Ms. Ford is basically calling Kavanaugh a rapist based on a poorly recollected memory; why you think anyone else would have any sort of reliable recall of the same event is bizarre.

Now. If Kavanaugh is found out to be a pussy-grabber a la Trump, then cool, get rid of him. I'm fairly certain this would've come out by now.

- Doc