Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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Re: Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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Chap wrote:
subgenius wrote:stagnant wages and lack of "influence", in this context, are a Union consequence.


So ... if the unions went away, the steel companies would raise wages without anybody needing to ask them?

Riiiiiight.

Notwithstanding your prophetic powers...but, ever notice how many non-Union jobs pay above minimum wage?
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Re: Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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Chap wrote:
subgenius wrote:stagnant wages and lack of "influence", in this context, are a Union consequence.


So ... if the unions went away, the steel companies would raise wages without anybody needing to ask them?

Riiiiiight.


subgenius wrote:Notwithstanding your prophetic powers...but, ever notice how many non-Union jobs pay above minimum wage?


So, do you think that if the steelworkers we are talking about (remember??) all left their union, the company would be likely to raise their wages by a substantial amount, and would thereafter keep wages at a level superior to what they would have got through union negotiation?

If not - what the heck are you trying to say??
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Re: Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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subgenius wrote:Notwithstanding your prophetic powers...but, ever notice how many non-Union jobs pay above minimum wage?

Meanwhile, in the real world:

“Nonunion workers had median weekly earnings that were 80 percent of earnings for workers who were union members ($829 versus $1,041)”

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archiv ... 192018.pdf
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Re: Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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Chap wrote:So, do you think that if the steelworkers we are talking about (remember??) all left their union, the company would be likely to raise their wages by a substantial amount, and would thereafter keep wages at a level superior to what they would have got through union negotiation?

If not - what the heck are you trying to say??


subs has no idea what he’s trying to say.
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Re: Trump's Steel Workers are Mad at Him

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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:Notwithstanding your prophetic powers...but, ever notice how many non-Union jobs pay above minimum wage?

Meanwhile, in the real world:

“Nonunion workers had median weekly earnings that were 80 percent of earnings for workers who were union members ($829 versus $1,041)”

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archiv ... 192018.pdf


Wow! What astonishing news!

People who band together to negotiate with their employers collectlvely end up with a better deal that people who try to do it one-on-immense corporation!

Hey Mr Bezos! I'm Jake, and I deserve a raise for working real hard!! How about it?

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Who'da thunk it???
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