Dennis Prager, moral paragon

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It’s not hard at all to understand why many women and girls don’t report sexual assault. Here’s one of way too many stories
about what happened to a high school student who reported an assault. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 8286c7efd9 I think I posted a link In the Kavanaugh thread to one of several Twitter hashtags in which women explain why they don’t report. All it takes to understand is time, reading, and a desire to understand.
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Res Ipsa wrote:All it takes to understand is time, reading, and a desire to understand.

That explains why some of these people keep asking the same dumb questions over and over.
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Res Ipsa wrote:It’s not hard at all to understand why many women and girls don’t report sexual assault. Here’s one of way too many stories
about what happened to a high school student who reported an assault. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 8286c7efd9 I think I posted a link In the Kavanaugh thread to one of several Twitter hashtags in which women explain why they don’t report. All it takes to understand is time, reading, and a desire to understand.



I guess waiting 35 years until the perpetrator is doing something significant in life is the proper time frame in which to address the issue if you've been sexually assaulted. Thanks for clarifying. I was struggling to understand the liberal mindset but now it's more clear to me.
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ajax18 wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:It’s not hard at all to understand why many women and girls don’t report sexual assault. Here’s one of way too many stories
about what happened to a high school student who reported an assault. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 8286c7efd9 I think I posted a link In the Kavanaugh thread to one of several Twitter hashtags in which women explain why they don’t report. All it takes to understand is time, reading, and a desire to understand.



I guess waiting 35 years until the perpetrator is doing something significant in life is the proper time frame in which to address the issue if you've been sexually assaulted. Thanks for clarifying. I was struggling to understand the liberal mindset but now it's more clear to me.


No, you’re not making the slightest attempt to understand. You’re disingenuously making up a bunch of crap that I didn’t say and attributing it to me. I’ll say it again: if you want to understand why women don’t report, read what women say. If you want to know I think, ask me. But don’t try and push your idiotic, cartoonish view of liberals onto me. that's’s just dishonest BS.
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ajax18 wrote:I was struggling to understand the liberal mindset but now it's more clear to me.

It doesn't appear anything is clear to you. Not anything real, anyway.

I've got to tell you man... your gut is an awful arbiter of the truth, and all you seem to rely on is your gut.

If your life is as awful as you sometimes describe, it doesn't surprise me. You live without reality.
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If you want to know I think, ask me. But don’t try and push your idiotic, cartoonish view of liberals onto me. that's’s just dishonest BS.


Perhaps you can educate me on this.

1. Why do statute of limitations exist in criminal court? Who decided that this was a good idea and why?

2. Does the timing of her claim make any difference in the scales of justice as they exist in in your mind?

3. How reliable is eye witness testimony in your legal experience? Is a false memory more likely to be created now or 35 years after the incident?

4. I'm really not as much an eye for eye, tooth for tooth individual in my view of justice. I do believe we should be seeking to rehabilitate criminals. Sometimes we punish ourselves more than we punish the criminal when we lock them up or impose astronomical court and prison costs upon the taxpayer. But I don't see a law that allows people to make sexual assault claims 30 or 40 years later very helpful in achieving justice. Laws like this seem to be the opposite of rehabilitation or even in the interest of protecting society. If you don't like his politics admit that's the reason and pursue that.

f your life is as awful as you sometimes describe


Radical feminism and reverse racism has yet to ruin my life. I have a good life, a hard won good life, but ultimately a very good life. I have a career that I love, a daughter and a son. I'm enjoying a time of economic prosperity, lower taxes, and I've lived to see a conservative revolution that has won back the white house when I thought it would not be possible ever again. I've lived through 8 years under a welfare king/community organizer and now am seeing the number of people on food stamps going down every month. We're taking much needed steps to restoring fair trade with Asia and the border is being enforced better than it has been in over 50 years.
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Res Ipsa wrote:No, you’re not making the slightest attempt to understand. You’re disingenuously making up a bunch of crap that I didn’t say and attributing it to me. I’ll say it again: if you want to understand why women don’t report, read what women say. If you want to know I think, ask me. But don’t try and push your idiotic, cartoonish view of liberals onto me. that's’s just dishonest BS.


Don't kid yourself RI. Ajax does understand it at least to some degree. If it was a democratic nominee he would take the opposite position and understand why she didn't come forward decades ago. In his mind it is ALL about politics for him and he will attack anyone viewed as a a liberal and support those he views support what he believes. The real difference between good behavior and bad behavior like Ajax's is how consistent it is with accusations against people from both sides.
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ajax18 wrote:I'm enjoying a time of economic prosperity, lower taxes, and I've lived to see a conservative revolution that has won back the white house when I thought it would not be possible ever again. I've lived through 8 years under a welfare king/community organizer and now am seeing the number of people on food stamps going down every month. We're taking much needed steps to restoring fair trade with Asia and the border is being enforced better than it has been in over 50 years.

Like I said, you live without reality.

I'll say this: it must be nice to just make up feel-good stories and force yourself believe your BS. It's childish, but I imagine it feels good.
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Res Ipsa wrote:No, you’re not making the slightest attempt to understand. You’re disingenuously making up a bunch of crap that I didn’t say and attributing it to me. I’ll say it again: if you want to understand why women don’t report, read what women say. If you want to know I think, ask me. But don’t try and push your idiotic, cartoonish view of liberals onto me. that's’s just dishonest BS.


Well, perhaps they don't report is because they have various reasons to not report? But those reasons, by themselves, don't point to their allegations being true or false. The problem with your insinuation is that it takes a very, very serious matter and reduces it to #justbelieveher.

I don't really know what your motivations are to want to rush to the defense of women in this case, they're probably pretty altruistic, but whether or not they're subjected to scrutiny, however tough or however delicate, you're talking about an accusation that immediately turns the accused's world upside down. The accused is branded a rapist on a mere allegation, their reputation is invariably destroyed, their career is tarnished if not outright destroyed, and even if they exonerate themselves they're never the same.

If a woman makes an allegation, but doesn't file a report that's her business. She's free to stop right there. God bless her. But a man has every_single_right to defend himself, his life, his family from a soul destroying rape accusation.

This is why due process is an amazing thing. I'm all for rapists being outed, charged, prosecuted, and if found guilty sent straight to jail. The problem is the other side where women who make false allegations don't face a commensurate punishment, despite ruining someone's life over it. They often get away with it. Men who are falsely accused don't get away with it. They wear that scarlet R for life. That needs to change.

Now, before you trot the old and tired argument that only x amount of rape allegations are found to be false please read this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comment ... e/e6erba6/

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopini ... l/e6hl2ep/

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Finally, I should state for the record that I don't believe that the numbers of women who've been raped equal or are less than men who've been falsely accused. Obviously the numbers are much higher, in my opinion. What I think we can't lose in all of this is a sense of innoncent until proven guilty and due process. This current climate of allegations = guilt, and you know it is, all you have to do is read the articles or look at the comments on any given thread and the accused is assumed guilty just as much as the accuser is assumed to be making things up.

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Dennis Prager has an article published in the National Review on the Kavanaugh allegations


I have no interest in reading the opinions of that idiot. :lol:
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