Kavanaugh and Perjury

[_Some Schmo]

Some Shmo is overcompensating for looking like a hairless rat.

Cammie, just tell your story. Was it an uncle with a hamster who taught you your secret shame? Did a ferret nibble your dick? What's your deal with rodents?

[Guest]

I fear that this emphasis on Kavanaugh's alleged sexual misconduct and the massive campaign by the GOP propaganda machine to create public sympathy for him as a victim of false accusations might actually make him more likely to be confirmed by deflecting attention away from better substantiated evidence that we know Brett Kavanaugh has lied already.

This week, we are witnessing the full depth of that cynicism, as the White House and its supporters smear a woman who makes credible, significant accusations of sexual assault against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. At the same time, another fact has become clear: Kavanaugh himself has a casual relationship with the truth ― and in that, he fits right in with the way President Donald Trump and his party behave.

As Russ Feingold, a former Senator who was on the Judiciary Committee during Kavanaugh's previous appearances before congressional hearings attested:

Taking all his testimony together, we see a clear pattern emerge: Brett Kavanaugh has never appeared under oath before the U.S. Senate without lying.

This alone should forever disqualify Kavanaugh from the judgeship he already holds, let alone a Supreme Court Justice!

So as an illegitimate administration goes to work attacking the credibility of a brave woman recounting her assault, let’s recognize the enormously cynical hypocrisy: The nominee they’re desperate to protect is a calculated liar who uses dishonesty to advance his own career. And any denial of these accusations by Kavanaugh before the committee must be viewed in the context of his multiple earlier lies under oath to that same committee.

Unfortunately, this current administration appears to place a higher value on willingness and ability to lie convincingly under oath than on honesty and truthfulness.

[_Kittens_and_Jesus]

Kevin,

You don't believe him, and apparently he has a penis..

Funny how people with a penis are automatically believed and lauded for outing Catholic priests for diddling them decades ago, but people with vaginas aren't to be trusted when reporting decades old sexual assaults...

Leading cause of PTSD among women, by the way.

For men its car crashes in case you were wondering...

[_Kevin Graham]

Poetic, sad and also hilarious. One of the girls who immediately jumped to defend Kavanaugh finds out that he actually demeaned her via his yearbook remarks. She also goes on to damage his credibility saying he misremembered kissing her because he never did. This is from one of the women who signed a statement in support of Kavanaugh!

Woman who signed letter supporting Kavanaugh calls yearbook revelation 'hurtful'

Washington (CNN)A woman who signed a letter supporting Brett Kavanaugh after he was accused of sexual assault earlier this month called revelations from his high school yearbook that showed he and his friends reportedly boasted about their supposed conquests with her "hurtful," The New York Times reported Monday.

Renate Schroeder Dolphin joined 64 other women this month who signed a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee saying they knew the Supreme Court nominee during their high school years and that "he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect."

However, Kavanaugh included "Renate Alumnius" as an entry in his high school yearbook page, and two of Kavanaugh's classmates told the Times the mentions of "Renate" were part of the high school football players' unsubstantiated boasting about their conquests.

When Dolphin, who attended a nearby Catholic girls' school and was then known as Renate Schroeder, signed the September 14 letter, the Times reports, she wasn't aware of the "Renate" yearbook references about herself on the pages of Kavanaugh and his football teammates.

"I learned about these yearbook pages only a few days ago," Dolphin said in a statement to the Times. "I don't know what 'Renate Alumnus' actually means. I can't begin to comprehend what goes through the minds of 17-year-old boys who write such things, but the insinuation is horrible, hurtful and simply untrue. I pray their daughters are never treated this way. I will have no further comment."

The word "Renate" appears at least 14 times in Georgetown Preparatory School's 1983 yearbook, the newspaper reports, including in the caption of a group photo of nine football players that includes Kavanaugh and Mark Judge, In the photo caption, the group of student athletes are described as the "Renate Alumni."

Kavanaugh's accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, said Judge was present when Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted her during their high school years.

Ford alleges Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were both in high school, pinning her down and covered her mouth as he tried to take off her clothes; she alleges Judge was in the room during the alleged assault. Both Kavanaugh and Judge deny Ford's allegations.

Ford and Kavanaugh are both scheduled to testify Thursday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Kavanaugh was one of 13 graduating seniors who referred to Dolphin in some way on their personal pages, the Times reports.

Sean Hagan, who was a Georgetown preparation student at the time, told the Times that Kavanaugh and his teammates "were very disrespectful, at least verbally, with Renate," and said, "I can't express how disgusted I am with them, then and now."

Hagan and another classmate, who requested anonymity, told the Times that Dolphin was a subject of their boasting. They said Kavanaugh and his friends wanted to memorialize their supposed conquests with the yearbook references. Hagan said Dolphin "should be offended," and told the Times he was "completely astounded" when he saw she had signed the letter in support of Kavanaugh.

Beth Wilkinson and Alexandra Walsh, lawyers for Kavanaugh, told CNN in a statement that Kavanaugh "was friends with Renate Dolphin in high school. He admired her very much then, and he admires her to this day."

"Judge Kavanaugh and Ms. Dolphin attended one high school event together and shared a brief kiss good night following that event," the statement reads.

"They had no other such encounter. The language from Judge Kavanaugh's high school yearbook refers to the fact that he and Ms. Dolphin attended that one high school event together and nothing else."

Dolphin told the Times through her lawyer, "I think Brett must have me confused with someone else, because I never kissed him."

Four of the players who were pictured with Judge Kavanaugh in the photo captioned "Renate Alumni" told the Times it was simply a reference to "innocent dates" or going to dances with Dolphin. DeLancey Davis, Tom Kane, Tim Gaudette and Don Urgo Jr. said in a statement to the Times that they had "never bragged about" sexual contact or anything like that with Dolphin.

Michael Walsh, another student at Georgetown preparation, also wrote "Renate Alumnus" on his yearbook page, the Times reports. He also included a short poem, "You need a date / and it's getting late / so don't hesitate / to call Renate."

Walsh was one of many Georgetown preparation alumni who signed a letter vouching for Kavanaugh's "sharp intellectual ability, affable nature, and a practical and fair approach devoid of partisan purpose." He did not respond to the Times' requests for comment.

Dolphin was aware Kavanaugh's friends were reciting that poem, a person familiar with her thinking told the Times. She reportedly told the football players that she found it offensive and asked them to stop.

[_Kevin Graham]

Kevin,

You don't believe him, and apparently he has a penis which you so presciently pointed out. You just underminded your own point. Like, you just blew up your own argument that he's believed because people with dicks believe other people with dicks. Or that people with dicks won't believe people with vagene. How you can't see that is probably the bigger issue at hand.

Weird.You need to refine your reproach.

- Doc

Doc I read every page in this thread this morning and I have to say, you're surprising the hell out of me. I mean you're reaching substupid/ajax levels here. You had your ass handed to you multiple times by EA and Res Ipsa and you keep ignoring valid questions that undermine your points while demanding everyone answer your red herrings that you pull from right wing websites.

You still haven't explained, after 12 pages now, why you immediately assume Ford is lying. We've been asking you this for days, but you just move along to another dumb sound byte from FOX or Reddit and call us ignorant. You criticize us for believing Ford, when in reality most of us are just saying the charges are serious enough to warrant investigation. But you feel no need to explain why you hypocritically throw your hands up and say no investigation should happen because it is impossible to know anything, while simultaneously stating she is lying and Kavanaugh is innocent. How the fuxk do you know what is impossible to know without an investigation? So far more evidence has surfaced and all you have done is hand wave it aside because you had already dug in your heels against Ford and accepting or even considering new evidence goes against your own political agenda. Again, hypocrite.

You obviously have issues with women. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes and a damned brain. You post images of women and say "trash." You are constantly whining about the precious reputation, not of a person, but of a "man." Your rhetoric is couched in terms of gender resentment. "Women never lie" you say sarcastically, a "man's reputation" is worth nothing, you repeat this dumb crap over and over. You sound like ajax going off about welfare and disability every time one of his arguments gets refuted.

I don't know if you're married, but some woman really did a number on you. I hope you're not one of those lonely weirdos who is still sulking over that Dear John letter he got on his mission 20 years ago.

I also saw Brackite saying he tended to disbelieve Ford because at the time no one else came forward. Well it just took a little time now didn't it? Now, several people have come forward and we have concrete evidence Kavanaugh is a liar. Not only did he already prove himself a liar when he perjured himself, but the High School yearbook completely annihilated his claim to having been a virgin and it blows away the 65 testimonies saying this would be out of character for him. Obviously that's not true. You don't brag about double-teaming women with a male friend, shoving alcohol or drugs in your rectum, and f*cking, frenching, fingering, and forgetting women because you're a good Christian virgin the whole time.

[_subgenius]

why you immediately assume Ford is lying.

It does not seem "immediate" at all, it seems to be the result of weighing the known facts. Only a moron would miss the details.

Ford sends an "anonymous" letter to a politician instead of police, refuses to testify, seems to have no issue with this "letter" being withheld for months, and has little more than "I felt like something bad would happen...it did not happen, but i felt like it might have".

July 25, 2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit... Ford says nothing (a.k.a. no anonymous letter)
May 11, 2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation. Kavanaugh subsequently confirmed by the United States Senate... Ford says nothing.
June 1, 2006: Kavanaugh sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy... Ford says nothing.
2012... Ford claims she remembered that 'something' happened in 1982, yet doesn't name Kavanaugh, still said nothing to authorities.
2017 - She becomes an anti-trump activist (see also her pictures with Soros)
2018 - Now 36 years later, with Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation almost certain and the Democrats running out of stall tactics....

The only thing believable here, and it is immediate, is that you have no reason to believe Ford other than "Trrruuuummmmp!"

[_Kevin Graham]

Just reading the crap you keep saying about how incredible it is for her not to remember specific details makes me wonder if you're still in High School.

I personally can think of several remarkable events during my time in High School but couldn't even begin to provide any of the details asked of Ford.

In fact just last year I came in contact with an old ex-girlfriend of mine on Facebook. We had a major falling out right after I had graduated and she was still a senior. We ended up chatting on the phone and spoke for a couple of hours but what struck us the most is how our memories diverged significantly on details while the event in question was never in doubt.

In my memory, we broke up right after her 18th birthday party. She ran away from home to a girlfriend's house named Tracy, and called me begging me to take her back. Which I did, but it only lasted a couple of weeks before she went back to smoking and being stupid with her girlfriends again.

In her memory, we broke up at a completely different party a week before her birthday. She said she went to Kristi's house and that I was the one who came looking for her without a phone call. She also doesn't remember anything about smoking playing a factor in the breakup.

This was 27 years ago and while our memory on the details don't match, we both agreed on the overall gist of what happened. So when you go off on a Reddit rant about how Ford must be lying about everything simply because she cannot tell us the exact time, place or the exact number of people attending a party more than 35 years ago, I have to think you're either a kid who hasn't had to remember something that far back, or you're just being a troll.

[Guest]

Unfortunately, this current administration appears to place a higher value on willingness and ability to lie convincingly under oath than on honesty and truthfulness.

Well. This is actually the more interesting question regarding the Kavanaugh nomination. Republican staff member Manuel Miranda found out he could access Democrats’ confidential emails. Think about this for a moment. Emails and files could be accessed by Republican staff members.

HOW THE “F” DID THAT HAPPEN?

If you want an FBI investigation THIS is the angle the Democrats should be taking. And if there was an FBI investigation, why aren't we getting leaked files or whatever for public consumption?

Remember Watergate? This is HUGE, bigger even due to the Republicans advancing judges within the system, and Kavanaugh apparently being a key role player. When contrasted against Kavanaugh benefiting from that improperly obtained information and now lying about it under oath this ought to be a show stopper.

But it's not salacious enough for the media and the retarded Democratic base. They lack the civic mindfulness to understand just how big this is, how it's a complete and utter Watergatian moment, and instead the choose to roll the dice with teen party shenanigans being the basis for Kavanaugh's dismissal.

Like. WTF? Y'all complain about the GOP being a bunch of sexual perverts, the President being a sexual pervert, and then you think if you put enough pressure on them they'll dismiss an alleged sexual pervert?

Are you guys really this damned dumb?

Yes. Yes Democrats are this damned dumb. This is their strategy. smfh

- Doc

[_Kevin Graham]

why you immediately assume Ford is lying.

It does not seem "immediate" at all, it seems to be the result of weighing the known facts. Only a moron would miss the details.

Ford sends an "anonymous" letter to a politician instead of police, refuses to testify, seems to have no issue with this "letter" being withheld for months, and has little more than "I felt like something bad would happen...it did not happen, but i felt like it might have".

July 25, 2003: President George W. Bush nominated Kavanaugh to the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C Circuit... Ford says nothing (a.k.a. no anonymous letter)
May 11, 2006: The United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary recommended confirmation. Kavanaugh subsequently confirmed by the United States Senate... Ford says nothing.
June 1, 2006: Kavanaugh sworn in by Justice Anthony Kennedy... Ford says nothing.
2012... Ford claims she remembered that 'something' happened in 1982, yet doesn't name Kavanaugh, still said nothing to authorities.
2017 - She becomes an anti-trump activist (see also her pictures with Soros)
2018 - Now 36 years later, with Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation almost certain and the Democrats running out of stall tactics....

The only thing believable here, and it is immediate, is that you have no reason to believe Ford other than "Trrruuuummmmp!"

Exit frick, enter frack.

Nothing above undermines her claims at all and it presume she has been stalking Kavanaugh her entire life keeping tabs on him and it further assumes that no one would come forward about a horrific event at a given time in the future unless they would do it at every given time in the future. Its just dumb reasoning but precisely the kind of dumb reasoning we'd expect from idiots who are only regurgitating Trump's Twitter remarks, which he merely takes from FOX new's Trump apologists. Again, the fact that Doc obviously despises women and you're the chinless cueball who can't succeed a marriage, makes your blind defense of Brett Boof par for the course.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

This is the problem with SJW's. They're completely damned retarded. If you don't support them or their current issue, whatever dumbass issue that pops up at the moment, all of a sudden you hate women, or blacks, or gays, or you're a Nazi. It's like they're brainwashed devotees, Scientologists on steroids, and if you're not falling in line with one of their hysterical reactions you're labeled whatever they think they can hurt you the most with.

One-Nut Wonder there, is a prime example of groupthink, and for whatever reason is totally off the reservation when it comes to politics.

If I were a centrist, I'd take a long, long look at people like One-Nut, the Hairless Rat, and especially EA and think long and hard about giving people like them, and people they support politically, power. Things like facts, due process, pragmaticism, and law mean nothing to them. Because they're damned insane.

- Doc