Dennis Prager, moral paragon

[_cinepro]

I've listened to Dennis Prager on and off for almost 20 years, but in the last few years, he's definitely said some things that have surprised me.

He was divorced and remarried a few years ago, and while I don't know the circumstances, it really seemed to change some of his views on sexual morality and he's gone into weird areas of justification and rationalization. (Or maybe it was there all along and I just hadn't noticed it.) Oddly, he also fancies himself as quite the scholar of the Torah, so I would expect him to be more conservative on these issues, not less.

But yeah, he's way out to lunch on this Kavanaugh situation. The only defense is that you don't think he did it. There is no defense that starts with "If he did it..."

[_ajax18]

But yeah, he's way out to lunch on this Kavanaugh situation. The only defense is that you don't think he did it. There is no defense that starts with "If he did it..."

This was 35 years ago and nobody has said anything about it until now? Do you not see any problem with that Cinepro?

How does something that happened that long ago that wasn't even bad enough to anyone involved to file charges, have any bearing on what kind of Supreme Court justice Judge Kavanaugh will be now?

[_Some Schmo]

But yeah, he's way out to lunch on this Kavanaugh situation. The only defense is that you don't think he did it. There is no defense that starts with "If he did it..."

This was 35 years ago and nobody has said anything about it until now? Do you not see any problem with that Cinepro?

How does something that happened that long ago that wasn't even bad enough to anyone ivolved to file charges, have any bearing on what kind of Supreme Court justice Judge Kavanaugh will be now?

Why do you keep asking the same dumb questions over and over and over? Are you waiting for an answer you'll like?

[_EAllusion]

But yeah, he's way out to lunch on this Kavanaugh situation. The only defense is that you don't think he did it. There is no defense that starts with "If he did it..."

This was 35 years ago and nobody has said anything about it until now? Do you not see any problem with that Cinepro?

How does something that happened that long ago that wasn't even bad enough to anyone involved to file charges, have any bearing on what kind of Supreme Court justice Judge Kavanaugh will be now?

How does not telling the truth about a rape attempt 35 years ago bear on the credibility of a person up for the most important arbiter of justice position in the US? You can't figure that out?

[_ajax18]

How do you prove this boy attempted to rape this girl? When is it just unwanted touching? I doubt much of anything happened which is why she didn't say anything 35 years ago. She knew even then that she had no case. This just a hail Mary attempt from Democrats to stop or hold off the swing of the Supreme court.

[_Some Schmo]

This was 35 years ago and nobody has said anything about it until now? Do you not see any problem with that Cinepro?

What's really bizarre about you continuing to ask this question is that it implies you don't see the connection between what is happening with Kavanaugh right now and the relevance of the accusation. You are entirely blinded by partisanship.

Why on earth would anyone bring this up (had they never intended to) before the guy was nominated for the damned Supreme Court of the United States? You can't put it together why that might suddenly change someone's decision about telling their story?

Seriously? This is a mystery to you?

[_Some Schmo]

I doubt much of anything happened which is why she didn't say anything 35 years ago. She knew even then that she had no case. This just a hail Mary attempt from Democrats to stop or hold off the swing of the Supreme court.

Right. Someone attempted to rape her, and her first thought was, Meh... I've got no case. Why bother saying anything?

You may be the most unusually selfish human being I've ever encountered. You can't suspend you own ego for one second to attempt to imagine what it would be like for a 15 year girl, alone in a room with two drunk boys a couple years older than she is, where one tried to force himself on her. If you could imagine that, and then your reaction to that experience, maybe, just maybe, you could understand why the humiliation and embarrassment would cause you to avoid reporting it at all costs. Some people might just be in too much pain to go through the ordeal of being attacked for being attacked.

You can't even be bothered to take a shot at what that would be like, because for some reason, this asshole is your guy. I guess 'cause Drumpf said he should be.

damned dumb and selfish, man.

There's a chance this guy's innocent (doesn't ring true after all we've heard, but it's possible). Why is he afraid of an FBI investigation? Then we'd at least have a better idea, wouldn't we? If he's innocent, why fear an investigation?

[_EAllusion]

How do you prove this boy attempted to rape this girl? When is it just unwanted touching? I doubt much of anything happened which is why she didn't say anything 35 years ago. She knew even then that she had no case. This just a hail Mary attempt from Democrats to stop or hold off the swing of the Supreme court.

You're just jumping between arguments. I was replying to a line of reasoning you offered that already assumed he was guilty of the allegation. You say, "Even if he did it, it was 35 years ago. That shouldn't matter." I point out that if he did it, he isn't telling the truth about it as recently as this week. You say in response to that, "I don't think he did it."

But you are correct that women who face the kind of attempted rape she alleges have no case outside of their witness testimony. That's the nature of the crime. That doesn't mean she should shut up if it is true or, as you reason, that it must not be true. One hopes your daughter doesn't face a crime like this only to be told by Dad, "You've got no case. Probably didn't happen."

[_cinepro]

This was 35 years ago and nobody has said anything about it until now? Do you not see any problem with that Cinepro?

How does something that happened that long ago that wasn't even bad enough to anyone involved to file charges, have any bearing on what kind of Supreme Court justice Judge Kavanaugh will be now?

If Kavanaugh did the things he's being accused of, I wouldn't want him to be a Supreme Court Justice.

As it stands now, I don't think there's good evidence he did, so I still support him.

[_Some Schmo]

As it stands now, I don't think there's good evidence he did, so I still support him.

Because three independent women's testimony doesn't constitute good evidence for you? Plus many others coming out to say he's lying about drinking? How many women would it take?

It's fair to say there's no proof he did it, but there's plenty of good evidence.