Kavanaugh and Perjury

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subgenius wrote:Weird that Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted only registered Democrats.

Given that a large majority of educated women currently prefer Democrats and he has all of two female accusers from elite educational institutions, could you help explain why that would be "weird?" Thanks.
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As you'd expect, there's now a ton of witnesses from Kavanaugh's college days coming out contradicting Kavanaugh's fervent denials about his hard-partying ways. Why Kavanaugh would lie about that when he is currently in a credibility battle is beyond me. He just might have too much Trump in him.
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I think earlier in the month some of the Republicans thought they'd get a few Democrats to support the nomination, but now I'd be absolutely astonished if any Democrats vote in favor of Kavanaugh. Looking at Wikipedia the quickest confirmation for the current Supreme Court (I don't know if I'm using the right term) was for Ginsberg at 50 days. I think we're down to 41 days before the November election, so it'd be really, really tight if they were to ditch Kavanaugh, today, and then nominate someone tomorrow. That's not happening. In a worst-case scenario, Kavanaugh gets owned on Thursday, Friday he's ditched, and the GOP gets around to nominating someone on Monday.

That's 36 days.

Looking at Wiki Justice O'Conner got in at 33 days. But I don't think this can work in this era. If, say, Kavanaugh is dumped or withdraws (and let's say McConnell really, really wants his guy Amal Thapar), and then Trump takes another two weeks to choose a replacement there just isn't enough time to seriously vet the new nominee before the lame-duck session.

I'd guess it's not a safe bet to know what would happen to Kavanaugh if more accusations came out after he’d already been confirmed to the Supreme Court, but the possibilities include impeachment, though I'm not sure how that'd work.

There's maybe an upside to this Kavanaugh thing if the GOP suffers a couple of defectors. Rank-and-file Conservative voters don't care about the Supreme Court as much as Party activists and other politicos do, but if their guy, Kavanaugh, is dropped or whatever, we'll probably see a lot of energy on their side not only for the upcoming elections, but for an even more Conservative justice which could be Amy Coney Barrett. But I don't know. That might be an overreach because we have pro-choice GOP Senators, but they seem to vote against their consciences on this issue.

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EAllusion wrote:
subgenius wrote:Weird that Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted only registered Democrats.

Given that a large majority of educated women currently prefer Democrats and he has all of two female accusers from elite educational institutions, could you help explain why that would be "weird?" Thanks.

Christ, I wish that when you put someone on ignore, the forum software was smart enough to edit out when that person is quoted, too.

I mean... I don't need that much stupid staring me in the face first thing in the morning.
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Mitch McConnell has assured us they are moving forward quickly with this and Kavanaugh will be confirmed on Friday.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Mitch McConnell has assured us they are moving forward quickly with this and Kavanaugh will be confirmed on Friday.

So yeah, it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh is an attempted rapist, because like most rapists, he's a Republican. I mean, who doesn't try to rape? Only wussy Democrats.
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EAllusion wrote:
subgenius wrote:Weird that Kavanaugh allegedly assaulted only registered Democrats.

Given that a large majority of educated women currently prefer Democrats and he has all of two female accusers from elite educational institutions, could you help explain why that would be "weird?" Thanks.

Its a weird, as in not seemingly common, fetish for a guy to just sexually assault female democrats.
Now when you say "large majority" i assume you mean way more than just a majority. Can you explain why that matters with regard to my charge of "weird"?
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subgenius wrote:Its a weird, as in not seemingly common, fetish for a guy to just sexually assault female democrats.


All the Republican women he sexually assaulted haven't come forward because they either 1) have no self respect or 2) put politics before everything... which is par for the course given recent commentary by Republican women defending him. It's all normal behavior they say.
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Kevin Graham wrote:*evidence really doesn't matter when im this entrenched*

1. Ford still can’t recall basic details of what she says was the most traumatic event in her life. Not where the “assault” took place — she’s not sure whose house it was, or even what street it was on. Nor when — she’s not even sure of the year, let alone the day and month.

2. Ford told no one what happened to her at the time, not even her best friend or mother - a.k.a. -no contemporaneous witness to corroborate her story.

3. Ford identifies 4 people she as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”

4. Ford's own immediate family doesn’t appear to be backing her up, either. Her mother, father and two siblings are all conspicuously absent from a letter of support released by a dozen relatives, mostly on her husband’s side of the family.

5. Ford contends that notes her therapist took in 2012 corroborate her account. But they don’t mention Kavanaugh.

6. Ford told The Washington Post she was upset when Trump won in 2016, because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a Supreme Court pick. But Kavanaugh wasn’t added to Trump’s list of possibles until November 2017, a full year later.

But yeah, tell me more.
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Gunnar wrote:Already frequently and exhaustively explained. Please try to keep up! I'm not going to explain it to you again.

nah,really...what was the tipping point?

1. Ford still can’t recall basic details of what she says was the most traumatic event in her life. Not where the “assault” took place — she’s not sure whose house it was, or even what street it was on. Nor when — she’s not even sure of the year, let alone the day and month.

2. Ford told no one what happened to her at the time, not even her best friend or mother - a.k.a. -no contemporaneous witness to corroborate her story.

3. Ford identifies 4 people she as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”

4. Ford's own immediate family doesn’t appear to be backing her up, either. Her mother, father and two siblings are all conspicuously absent from a letter of support released by a dozen relatives, mostly on her husband’s side of the family.

5. Ford contends that notes her therapist took in 2012 corroborate her account. But they don’t mention Kavanaugh.

6. Ford told The Washington Post she was upset when Trump won in 2016, because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a Supreme Court pick. But Kavanaugh wasn’t added to Trump’s list of possibles until November 2017, a full year later.
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