Kavanaugh and Perjury

[_EAllusion]

EAllusion, you're such a mouth breather. Kavanaugh hasn't lied about a damn thing. You cannot name a single thing he's lied about. You may "suspect" he's lying, but cannot actually show that to be the case. Re Kavanaugh's drinking, did you actually watch the hearing? He was very forthright and acknowledged drinking to excess on occasion. In high school. He denied blacking out or drinking to a point of experiencing memory loss after the fact. How in the world can you say he's lying about that? You have recordings of his brain or something?

EAllusion, have you ever been the subject of an FBI background investigation? I have. I'm sure Doc has as well. They are quite exhaustive. Drinking habits are also central to their focus. You must provide a list of every place you have ever lived. Every place you have ever worked. Or gone to school. You must provide lists of friends, and family. Go lookup the SF86 form. And then you know what they do? They go to all of these places, knock on the doors, talk to your neighbors, your landlords, your tenants if you owned property, your co workers, your peers in school, your professors, your friends, your druggie relative. Every damn person. And you know what they ask all these people? One of the very first questions, they ask about drinking habits!

Kavanaugh has gone through this 6 times. Highest security clearance possible. Worked with the president. By his side. In the oval office. Flying on AF1. A high ranking federal judge at the court that is closest to Supreme Court in terms of seniority.

If you think there is something relevant to uncover related to his drinking habits, you're a fool. But I repeat myself.

You know someone's defense against evidence of lying is going well when they turn into radical skeptics against the very idea of infering someone is lying in general. No, I don't need a brain scan or perfect knowledge of Kavanaugh's mental states to know he is lying. Numerous witnesses, including friendly ones, paint a consistent picture of Kavanaugh as a heavy drinker in such a way that the idea he'd never have memory lapses from drinking as he claims is so unlikely as to be ridiculous.

The prior FBI background checks weren't investgating what we are interested in here, and even if they were, then they appear to have gotten it wrong. We're only a few years removed from when the Republican speaker of the House was a child molester bribing silence out of a victim. Powerful people under scrutiny don't always get caught.

[_EAllusion]

The whole point behind trying to paint Ford as a liar with the fear of flying thing was to impugn her credibility so as to make her allegation less likely to be true. It was absurd, but contrast that with the defense of Kavanaugh in light of the fact he actually was lying constantly.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

The whole point behind trying to paint Ford as a liar with the fear of flying thing was to impugn her credibility so as to make her allegation less likely to be true. It was absurd, but contrast that with the defense of Kavanaugh in light of the fact he actually was lying constantly.

I took it as a delaying tactic on her team's end.

- Doc

[_Some Schmo]

Anyone who thinks Kavanaugh was more credible than Ford is clearly a partisan hack, aping the idiotic talking points of their party's propaganda.

If only they could speak Russian. Lucky for the GOP, Russia's doing the translating for them.

[_EAllusion]

The whole point behind trying to paint Ford as a liar with the fear of flying thing was to impugn her credibility so as to make her allegation less likely to be true. It was absurd, but contrast that with the defense of Kavanaugh in light of the fact he actually was lying constantly.

I took it as a delaying tactic on her team's end.

- Doc

I am speaking to the focus on it. There's an implied understanding of the importance credibility of witnesses there. That was part of a failed effort to find something, anything to take Ford down a peg. This is one of the reasons why she functions as such an ideal witness. They couldn't get a thing on her and had to grasp.

The evidence that Kavanaugh committed attempted rape is Ford's testimony that he committed attempted rape. Kavanaugh's various lies about facts surrounding the case make his denials sound less credible. Normally, this is your preponderance standard right there. That's probably not enough to declare him for sure a would-be rapist as much of the left has decided, but it's distinctly likely.

[_Some Schmo]

I keep saying, the GOP should be careful what they wish for. If they make abortion illegal, the female backlash that'll cause will make #metoo look like a summer party. The GOP will lose the only decent rallying call they've had for the last 40 years - it'll be like the proverbial dog catching the car it chased. All they'll be left with are KKK slogans.

[_EAllusion]

I keep saying, the GOP should be careful what they wish for. If they make abortion illegal, the female backlash that'll cause will make #metoo look like a summer party. The GOP will lose the only decent rallying call they've had for the last 40 years - it'll be like the proverbial dog catching the car it chased. All they'll be left with are KKK slogans.

The religious right has much more on the docket besides abortion that has roughly similar levels of passionate support. Creationism in public schools is the one that I've followed forever. Coerced prayer in public schools is another one.

They got issues to work on for a while.

[_Kevin Graham]

Here is Kevin, the real estate agent, calling Rachel Mitchell and Brett Kavanaugh stupid.

Yes, absolutely, and I proved it. To "refute" something in this context clearly refers to proving it wrong, which is the whole point of their argument. It is a flat out lie and even someone with your minimal brain power should be able to understand this. Even if we adopt substupid's preferred definition of deny or contradict it still doesn't fit since many of these witnesses did neither. To say you have no recollection of something 35 years ago is not synonymous with disproving, denying or contradicting it. At least one of the persons who supposedly "refuted" Ford said she believed Ford and not Kavanaugh.

Kevin, is there anybody here who gives a wet fart about what you think, about, anything? You're just bent out of shape that Trump is about 10 billion times more successful that you.

Yes, this is all about me huh? Nothing about your stupid posts citing stupid people who make obviously stupid remarks.

He does literally what you do, except, he's actually good at it.

He does nothing like what I do. In fact he literally does nothing but golf and tweet.

You are precisely the person standing in line for hours to attend one of his How To Be Successful Enough to Make My Rent seminars.

I've never attended one of those lame get rich quick scams and I don't need them. I despise idiots like Trump and Dave Ramsey who promise to make people rich. I've become a millionaire without much help from anyone except the people I've done business with..

Precisely the sort of person that would go order a bunch of credit cards with $1500 limits each so that you can pay your Trump University tuition fees.

$1500 limit is what you're working with? Wow, your credit must truly suck.

True story. Two months ago they opened a new Costco down the street from us. I waited in line with my daughter to sign up for the Executive Credit Card. I was in flip flops, hadn't shaved in days, and looked like a friggin hobo to be honest. There were a couple of people in front of me and the people behind the counter kept looking at me as if to say, "Ya, like you're going to get credit here." They weren't very polite at first, never making eye contact, until they ran my ss# and said I got approved for their best card. I asked what my limit was and the guy said it was the highest he had ever seen and he had worked at the Kennesaw Costco for three years. I don't remember what it was but it was something like $18,000. The guy's attitude towards me changed completely and I just told him never to judge a book by a cover. For example, looking at Substupid you may think he looks pretty smart.

I have well over $70,000 in credit just from credit cards, but only a cumulative balance of about $2,500. My debt to income ratio is ridiculously low. I have a $600k home that's paid off, a $400k HELOC we never use anymore and just one car payment, which I haven't paid off because ... just lazy I guess. This is why my credit is score was 800, last time I checked and Trump's credit is somewhere in Russia.

But yeah, keep telling us how that Trump worshiping goes. Trump inherited his father's real estate empire, had a $200 million head start and lived off of his name while lying about the extent of his wealth so he could further defraud banks into giving him huge loans for crap he ultimately couldn't pay, which is why no American bank will do business with him anymore.

Comparing Trump to me or any real estate agent is just downright stupid. And selling real estate is just something I do part time now.

[_Kevin Graham]

One of the definitions for "refute" is to deny or contradict...and to that end Kavanaugh has denied her allegation, ergo "refuted".

Awesome. Now show us where all the witnesses have denied or contradicted her testimony.

This is where you realize you're as dumb as advertised, but will instead of admitting it, probably just go on and one with more spin.

[_EAllusion]

Lol. The NYT is reporting that Ford isn't on the list of the 4 people the FBI is allowed to interview. Ford states she hasn't been contacted, which is consistent with that.

Totally legit investigation there.