Kavanaugh and Perjury

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This is interesting and I wonder how it would've gone with a Trump guy in the seat:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us ... spartandhp

US Supreme Court won't let billionaire keep California beach to himself

"The most conservative and divided Supreme Court in my lifetime confirmed that even a billionaire, who refuses to acknowledge that the law applies to him, and retains the most expensive attorneys he can find, cannot create a private beach," said Joseph Cotchett, lead attorney for the Surfrider Foundation, which sued Khosla. "Beaches are public in California, and the immensely wealthy must comply with the Coastal Act just like everyone else."

Despite the, what I find to be, absolute horse crap accusation meant to take Kavanaugh out, this is probably why Leftist and Liberals are so concerned about him sitting on the bench. I have no idea, but if he's truly a ringer for Trump he might've been able to swing the court the other way on this verdict.

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Kevin Graham wrote:
ETA: THIS JUST IN

WASHINGTON — In the days leading up to a public allegation that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh exposed himself to a college classmate, the judge and his team were communicating behind the scenes with friends to refute the claim, according to text messages obtained by NBC News.

Kerry Berchem, who was at Yale with both Kavanaugh and his accuser, Deborah Ramirez, has tried to get those messages to the FBI for its newly reopened investigation into the matter but says she has yet to be contacted by the bureau.

The texts between Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, both friends of Kavanaugh, suggest that the nominee was personally talking with former classmates about Ramirez’s story in advance of the New Yorker article that made her allegation public. In one message, Yarasavage said Kavanaugh asked her to go on the record in his defense. Two other messages show communication between Kavanaugh's team and former classmates in advance of the story.

The texts also demonstrate that Kavanaugh and Ramirez were more socially connected than previously understood and that Ramirez was uncomfortable around Kavanaugh when they saw each other at a wedding 10 years after they graduated. Berchem's efforts also show that some potential witnesses have been unable to get important information to the FBI...

A September 24 text shows Yarasavage clarifying that she did not refute Ramirez’s claims to the New Yorker. Republicans and Kavanaugh have said that his former classmates, who gave an anonymous statement to the New Yorker, have refuted Ramirez’s claim.

“I didn’t say I would have known … I said she never told me, I never heard a word of this ever happening and never saw it. The media surmised (that I was saying she is lying),” said Yarasavage.

Yarasavage declined to speak to NBC News as did other classmates named in Berchem’s memo who may have information pertinent to the investigation.

Finally, Berchem is concerned about what she witnessed at the 1997 wedding where Ramirez and Kavanaugh were both in the wedding party.

The wedding took place 10 years after Ramirez and Kavanaugh graduated. According to the information Berchem provided, Ramirez tried to avoid Kavanaugh at that wedding of their two friends, Yarasavage and Kevin Genda.

Ramirez, “clung to me” at the wedding, Berchem wrote to Yarasavage in a Sept. 24th text message recalling the event. “She never went near them,” a reference to Kavanaugh and his friends. Even in the group photo, Berchem wrote, Ramirez was trying to keep away from Kavanaugh.


Uh, Kavanaugh testified under oath that the first he heard about the Ramirez allegation was when it was published in the New Yorker, right?

ETA: Yep - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/suprem ... ce-n915566
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canpakes wrote:
If DogFord makes a crazy claim, and SSKavanaugh states, “zero evidence” because DogFord has given none, then SSKavanaugh is under no obligation to find the nonexistent evidence that DogFord either doesn’t want to provide or cannot locate ifbecause it is nonexistent.

FIFY
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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:
If DogFord makes a crazy claim, and SSKavanaugh states, “zero evidence” because DogFord has given none, then SSKavanaugh is under no obligation to find the nonexistent evidence that DogFord either doesn’t want to provide or cannot locate ifbecause it is nonexistent.

FIFY

And you still ignore and have no rebuttal for the well substantiated previous instances of Kavanaugh's lyng under oath before the Senate, which should automatically disqualify him from the Supreme Court Justice position, regardless of the truth or falsity of Dr. Blasey's accusation.
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This Kavanaugh fellow might not be on the level:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/p ... fight.html
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He was in a college bar fight? That just makes me like him, actually. Now he's relatable to half the country. :lol:

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Sounds just the man for the Supreme Court bench.

Percentage of men who have got into drunken fights in bars that end with the cops being called, or who regard so doing as a likeable characteristic? Really not very high, I'd guess.

The outlines of the incident were first referred to in a statement issued on Sunday by Chad Ludington, one of Judge Kavanaugh’s college classmates and a member of the Yale basketball team.

“On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face,” Mr. Ludington said in the statement. Mr. Ludington, a professor at North Carolina State University, said he came forward because he believed Judge Kavanaugh had mischaracterized the extent of his drinking at Yale.

Mr. Ludington said that he had been in touch with the F.B.I.

He said that the altercation happened after a UB40 concert on Sept. 25, when he and a group of people went to Demery’s and were drinking pints. At one point, they were sitting near a man who, they thought, resembled Ali Campbell, the lead singer of UB40.

“We’re trying to figure out if it’s him,” he said.

When the man noticed Mr. Ludington, Mr. Kavanaugh and the others looking at him, he objected and told them to stop it, adding an expletive, Mr. Ludington said.

Mr. Kavanaugh cursed, he said, and then “threw his beer at the guy.”

“The guy swung at Brett,” Mr. Ludington continued. At that point, Mr. Dudley “took his beer and smashed it into the head of the guy, who by now had Brett in an embrace. I then tried to pull Chris back, and a bunch of other guys tried to pull the other guy back. I don’t know what Brett was doing in the melee, but there was blood, there was glass, there was beer and there was some shouting, and the police showed up.”
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New evidence shows that Kavanaugh was coordinating a response to the Ramirez claims before the New Yorker broke the news. Something Kavanaugh swore under oath he didn't know about.
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Chap wrote:Sounds just the man for the Supreme Court bench.

Percentage of men who have got into drunken fights in bars that end with the cops being called, or who regard so doing as a likeable characteristic? Really not very high, I'd guess.


What has he done with the last 26-years of his life? Isn't that what Democrats should be focused on?

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Re: Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:He was in a college bar fight? That just makes me like him, actually. Now he's relatable to half the country. :lol:

- Doc


Except for the part where you didn't disassemble about this fact while under oath in Congressional testimony, I would imagine.
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