Kavanaugh Has Become a Hero to the Incel Community

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Re: Kavanaugh Has Become a Hero to the Incel Community

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Some Schmo wrote:It's weird there's a specific label for guys who have trouble getting laid. It's not something I can imagine someone would want to call themselves, so how would this catch on?

And if someone who's getting laid made it up, well... that's just mean. By naming it, they gave people an excuse not to try.


I sort of thought the same thing but then I realized that incel isn't even close to the most ridiculous group or label people proudly associate themselves with:

Brony, trump-supporter, nambla member, Belieber, furry, scientologist/Mormon, nazi, Trace Adkin fan, west-Virginian, Red Sox fan, reality TV "star", social media influencer, Juggalos, "jet-setter", etc.

The list of labels people choose for themselves that are worse than "incel" could go on forever. I almost find "incel" somewhat endearing as it seems, in many cases, to be self-deprecating unlike many other labels people proudly embrace. I mean, shite, look at these two imbeciles:

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schreech wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:It's weird there's a specific label for guys who have trouble getting laid. It's not something I can imagine someone would want to call themselves, so how would this catch on?

And if someone who's getting laid made it up, well... that's just mean. By naming it, they gave people an excuse not to try.

I sort of thought the same thing but then I realized that incel isn't even close to the most ridiculous group or label people proudly associate themselves with:

Brony, trump-supporter, nambla member, Belieber, furry, scientologist/Mormon, nazi, Trace Adkin fan, west-Virginian, Red Sox fan, reality TV "star", social media influencer, Juggalos, "jet-setter", etc.

Yeah, good point.
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canpakes wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I wonder if this isn't related to the Internet, and how easy it is to self-isolate for young men. This pain of isolation often perverts into rage and hate. The most dangerous thing in the world is young men with no connections who feel they have no future. Source: ISIS.

What’s curious is how this group seems to trend politically ‘right’.


Im guessing they blame feminism and the progressive attitudes of many women for their inability to get laid. They want to return to the "good old days" where women know their place in the home, waiting for them with dinner on the table and martini in hand when they finish their grueling day of complaining on the internet about how women hate them between tech support calls.
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schreech wrote:
canpakes wrote:What’s curious is how this group seems to trend politically ‘right’.

Im guessing they blame feminism and the progressive attitudes of many women for their inability to get laid.

It could be just as simple as the GOP giving a home to people with personal problems they blame on others. The party of personal responsibility has no real interest in personal responsibility, unless they're complaining about others not taking it.
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Some Schmo wrote:It could be just as simple as the GOP giving a home to people with personal problems they blame on others. The party of personal responsibility has no real interest in personal responsibility, unless they're complaining about others not taking it.


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Some Schmo wrote:It's weird there's a specific label for guys who have trouble getting laid. It's not something I can imagine someone would want to call themselves, so how would this catch on?

And if someone who's getting laid made it up, well... that's just mean. By naming it, they gave people an excuse not to try.
If you have some time to kill and our curious I'd recommend going down the rabbit hole of the incel community. They used to have a large subreddit but that may be banned, /r/inceltears is still around if I'm not mistaken. There are some more direct sources but I'll let you find them on your own, I don't typically try to promote them. I think Vox's summary of it is a good jumping off point (at least it was the best one I found at the time it popped up on my radar).

There are also a ton of interesting stories of people seeing the light and coming to grips with their situation and turning their lives around and a fair number of incel support groups, which is always nice to see.
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I have to imagine a lot of those guys are probably in their teens and early 20's. I don't know how you can function in society and hold onto their mindset.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I have to imagine a lot of those guys are probably in their teens and early 20's. I don't know how you can function in society and hold onto their mindset.

- Doc
I think you might be surprised, I mean ajax is able to hold the views he does and still be a functioning member of society. People are very good at internalizing things and just kind of... surviving. I think the ability to vent some of this stuff on the internet actually helps in being able to make it through the day (not unlike coming to a forum to vent about Mormonism making it easier to go to church on Sunday). Whether that is a good thing is an entirely different question.
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Wow. What a depressing thing to read.

I've never had a problem getting dates as an adult, but as an LDS teenager, I could certainly relate to feelings of sexual frustration. I got the feeling from the article that most of these guys are just looking for others with whom to share their experience, and I feel honest compassion for guys like that.

I certainly don't condone taking that frustration out on society, however, or even approaching the idea that society is to blame. Chads and Staceys? Please. Biology plays a role in everyone's experiences, and the collective gives us the society we have today. Blaming others for your biology ignores everyone else's biology.

If you're having a problem getting dates, it's likely not going to help if you support violence against the people you want to like you.
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