Kavanaugh and Perjury

[_Water Dog]

Except it was posted in response to RI. I think he saying he is only worrying about what he posts and what people post in response to him. I think you get that though.

Which comes across like the Colbert writer locking her Twitter account, slinking back and claiming "sorry was just being sarcastic." This is a message board, not a private discussion. There is a group dynamic. Which also makes RI's comment, response, and group reaction to it all, quite ironic. My response to him was as much a response to others. I've got people spitting on my military service in here, calling me garbage and other things, and RI can't even take a little tease? A little tease, and he responds in the same fashion, makes it personal. Yes, I think we've established the truth of RI's comment. We are screwed. And RI is as much a part of the problem as anybody else.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Oh. Well. I'd like to think radical centrism is based more in pragmatism than ideology thieving.

I believe this wiki article probably approximates my approach to politics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism

eta: I do wonder if my 'GenX'ness' doesn't come into play. I notice a lot of random GenX types tend to espouse a more centrist outlook. But I'm also willing to admit I'm just seeing what I want to see.

- Doc

[_Water Dog]

https://Twitter.com/SteveScalise/status ... 7100571650










"A special education teacher in Minnesota has resigned after asking her Twitter followers who was going to kill Justice Brett Kavanaugh."

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/10/min ... kavanaugh/






Here's another veteran for Mak to disparage and mock. Or does he only have the guts to talk trash about fictional strawmen on an anonymous board?

[_EAllusion]

Oh. Well. I'd like to think radical centrism is based more in pragmatism than ideology thieving.

I think you misread that. It's not literally that person is picking positions based on cafeteria selections of established ideologies. Most people period don't have political ideologies. It's only a small % of people who do, and that group includes people with ridiculous ideological views like committed neo-Nazis.

What I'm saying is that if you look at polls of beliefs of self-described centrists, you find lots of people who have political opinions that just are a mish-mash of positions that might individually be thought of as well to one side or one side or the other. It's not necessarily a person committed to adopting middle-ground positions between wherever the current window of debate is among the parties.

"Radical centrist" sometimes refers to someone who is radically committed to the middleground as an end unto itself due the value of political compromise and sometimes refers someone who has radical positions on things, but some of those are traditionally thought of as right-wing and others are left-wing, thus making them a "centrist." Radical centrists in the latter sense usually think of themselves as pragmatists. I wasn't sure if you were describing yourself as the former or the latter. I think it's pretty clear that you're the latter - you want to ship homeless people to projects in the desert and forbid poor people from reproducing on the one had, but also endorse various "eat the rich" policies on the other - but I don't know how you see yourself.

I believe this wiki article probably approximates my approach to politics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism

Yeah, that sounds right.

[_Res Ipsa]

RI, because a gif is enough for you to ____ about Water Dog, but not the perjoratives being thrown around by others? It demonstrates an ideological blindspot.

- Doc

WD threw his gif at me. No one has thrown rapepublican at me. Why in the world should I have to board nanny Schmo or Kevin in order to address a response WD made to me? If you’re genuinely interested in my opinion about something someone else posted, just ask me. Then we can talk about blind spots.

[_Res Ipsa]

Except it was posted in response to RI. I think he saying he is only worrying about what he posts and what people post in response to him. I think you get that though.

Which comes across like the Colbert writer locking her Twitter account, slinking back and claiming "sorry was just being sarcastic." This is a message board, not a private discussion. There is a group dynamic. Which also makes RI's comment, response, and group reaction to it all, quite ironic. My response to him was as much a response to others. I've got people spitting on my military service in here, calling me garbage and other things, and RI can't even take a little tease? A little tease, and he responds in the same fashion, makes it personal. Yes, I think we've established the truth of RI's comment. We are ____. And RI is as much a part of the problem as anybody else.

WD, it ain’t complicated. When you quote one of my posts in your response, that’s a post directed to me. If you don’t intend to direct your post to me, don’t include my words in your post. Or note that you’re not actually addressing me. It ain’t rocket science.

And my posts have literally nothing to do with the Colbert writer. I’m right here. I haven’t blocked my account. Or changed anything I’ve said. Or even erased any of my posts here to avoid being held accountable for my own words.

Let me put it in terms you have used here. Your attempt to shame me with others’ words is childish and disingenuous. I haven’t spit on your military service and I haven’t called you garbage. In fact, in case you’ve forgotten, I defended you upthread from similar insults.

And your description of my response to your gif is also childish. Quote the part of my response where I spit on your service. Quote the part of my response that said you were garbage. All said was that your response to my comment is part of the problem. And you equate that with spitting on your military service??? Dude, take your own advice and lighten up.

And of course I included myself in my comment. It was about “this thread.” Who posted in this thread? Me. I thought it was pretty damn clear.

[_Kevin Graham]

[_Maksutov]

Water Dog, it ain’t complicated. When you quote one of my posts in your response, that’s a post directed to me. If you don’t intend to direct your post to me, don’t include my words in your post. Or note that you’re not actually addressing me. It ain’t rocket science.

And my posts have literally nothing to do with the Colbert writer. I’m right here. I haven’t blocked my account. Or changed anything I’ve said. Or even erased any of my posts here to avoid being held accountable for my own words.

Let me put it in terms you have used here. Your attempt to shame me with others’ words is childish and disingenuous. I haven’t spit on your military service and I haven’t called you garbage. In fact, in case you’ve forgotten, I defended you upthread from similar insults.

And your description of my response to your gif is also childish. Quote the part of my response where I spit on your service. Quote the part of my response that said you were garbage. All said was that your response to my comment is part of the problem. And you equate that with spitting on your military service??? Dude, take your own advice and lighten up.

And of course I included myself in my comment. It was about “this thread.” Who posted in this thread? Me. I thought it was pretty damn clear.

It was me. Yeah, the Dog REALLY hates it when you question his service...but he defends a man, a rich prick draft dodger, who attacked the service of a wounded tortured veteran and a Gold Star Family. Men and women of honor also don't laugh at rape victims. The Dog doesn't get to hide behind a uniform. If he has sick ideas, which he has shown, he's just a monster in uniform. We've had them before and will again. A jerk in uniform is worse than a civilian jerk. We expect more. So long as the Dog shows his cretinism regarding assaulted women, I am happy to assault his notions of his honor and worth, including and especially his service. His male military ego and vanity is not superior to the trauma of the innocent. I know four raped women. How many do you know, Res Ipsa? Are any of them worth a put down meme or a joke? Do they make you laugh and sneer at stupid women and liberals? Do we encourage this or condemn it?

[_Res Ipsa]

Water Dog, it ain’t complicated. When you quote one of my posts in your response, that’s a post directed to me. If you don’t intend to direct your post to me, don’t include my words in your post. Or note that you’re not actually addressing me. It ain’t rocket science.

And my posts have literally nothing to do with the Colbert writer. I’m right here. I haven’t blocked my account. Or changed anything I’ve said. Or even erased any of my posts here to avoid being held accountable for my own words.

Let me put it in terms you have used here. Your attempt to shame me with others’ words is childish and disingenuous. I haven’t spit on your military service and I haven’t called you garbage. In fact, in case you’ve forgotten, I defended you upthread from similar insults.

And your description of my response to your gif is also childish. Quote the part of my response where I spit on your service. Quote the part of my response that said you were garbage. All said was that your response to my comment is part of the problem. And you equate that with spitting on your military service??? Dude, take your own advice and lighten up.

And of course I included myself in my comment. It was about “this thread.” Who posted in this thread? Me. I thought it was pretty damn clear.

It was me. Yeah, the Dog REALLY hates it when you question his service...but he defends a man, a rich prick draft dodger, who attacked the service of a wounded tortured veteran and a Gold Star Family. Men and women of honor also don't laugh at rape victims. The Dog doesn't get to hide behind a uniform. If he has sick ideas, which he has shown, he's just a monster in uniform. We've had them before and will again. A jerk in uniform is worse than a civilian jerk. We expect more. So long as the Dog shows his cretinism regarding assaulted women, I am happy to assault his notions of his honor and worth, including and especially his service. His male military ego and vanity is not superior to the trauma of the innocent. I know four raped women. How many do you know, Res Ipsa? Are any of them worth a put down meme or a joke? Do they make you laugh and sneer at stupid women and liberals? Do we encourage this or condemn it?

Mak, so I don’t keep a tally of women I know or have known who have been raped, but I’m sure it’s lots more than four. I’ve been in on enough discussions of rape that I’ve heard more stories than I could possibly remember. I don’t recall ever doing anything to put down anyone who had told me they were raped or sexually assaulted. I don’t know why I would do such a thing. I don’t generally post memes because, frankly, most of them are just stupid. It’s the pinnacle of a long trend of dumbing down complex issues. That anyone thinks that complex issues like K and his accusers can be captured in a pic and five words is beyond me. It contributes to what I think are the negative dynamics at play here: each tribe reducing members of the other to 2 dimensional cartoon figures. It’s BS.

No, rape victims don’t make me laugh and sneer at them. Expressions of pain don’t make me laugh or elicit a sneer.

I really can’t speak to “we.” I can only speak to me. You do you. I’ll do me. I’m just not going to assume responsibility for what other adults say on a message board, regardless of whether they’re on my side or not.

[_Water Dog]

Roll call, everybody still here?