Trump owes Warren $1 million. Will he pay his debt?

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_Kevin Graham
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Water Dog wrote:
As The Federalist's Sean Davis points out, according to The New York Times, the average white person in America has nearly double the amount of American Indian DNA (0.18%) as Elizabeth Warren (0.098%)


http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/15/eli ... YI.Twitter

LOL


Not true. I've spoken to many Americans here who have taken the test and they have none. If she is 1/64 which would plausibly be true if 6 generations back, then this makes her 1.6% Native American. But you're assuming she's 10 generations back, or 1/1024 which is how you come up with 0.098.

According to her DNA test, she could be very well 1.6% Native American, meaning she has 16 times the Native American DNA as the average white American.

That's the Federalist for ya. Brietbart lite. A crap Right Wing source that can easily be refuted with a damned calculator. But I love how they try to assert this is "according to the New York Times," and then cite an article from 2014 which had nothing to do with Warren.
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It says, "'The analysis also identified 5 genetic segments as Native American in origin at high confidence.'" So, 5 genetic segments out of how many? Tens of thousands, perhaps?

It next says, "Bustamante's analysis places Warren's Native American ancestor between six and 10 generations ago, with the report estimating eight generations." 2 parents doubling each generation for 8 generations = 256. So, 1/256 doesn't sound like much of a Native American to me.

Regardless of how we may feel about Trump, fairness demands that he gets to keep his $1 million.
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Dr. Shades wrote:Regardless of how we may feel about Trump, fairness demands that he gets to keep his $1 million.

No, man. She said her family had stories of a Native American ancestor. Drumpf (among others) doubted that story and offered money to charity if she got a test proving she had an A.I. ancestor. She did it.

Just because the test didn't come back saying she was half Indian doesn't mean Drumpf gets to weasel out of his offer without criticism (as DarkHelmet already pointed out, the douche bag fraud wouldn't give anything to charity anyway. Ivanka could be dying of breast cancer and he'd call cancer research a hoax before donating anything).
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But I'm 2% according to Ancestry.com, because my great-grandmother was native American.


That 2% seems to have had a disproportionate effect on you as an individual.
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ajax18 wrote:
But I'm 2% according to Ancestry.com, because my great-grandmother was native American.
That 2% seems to have had a disproportionate effect on you as an individual.

In a thread about someone's race, it was only a matter of time before you showed up to remind us what you're all about.
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Oh my god. I just realized, looking at my ancestry.com breakout, that my being 91% British Isles and 3% Norwegian there was definitely some raping and pillaging going on.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Oh my god. I just realized, looking at my ancestry.com breakout, that my being 91% British Isles and 3% Norwegian there was definitely some raping and pillaging going on.

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Not necessarily. It could have been, but Vikings had settlements in England and Ireland and they mingled (legally) with the locals. My father was from a little town in Wales called Mostyn. He had a mild genetic condition called Dupuytren's contraction that effects mostly people of Scandinavian ancestry. It's called the Viking disease (I have it, too). Years before DNA tests were common, I found it curious, did a little research and found that Mostyn had been a Viking settlement in the distant past. Dublin and York had also been major Viking towns.

A large area in Northern England was once known as 'The Dane Law" because of it's large Scandinavian population. I have a small percentage of Scandinavian DNA in my results, as well.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:How does anyone know he won't pay it? She hasn't even taken the test yet.

She should take the test FIRST, then IF it turns out she's Native American, call on him to follow through.

Dude...

*speechless*

Actually, he's right. Perhaps not knowingly so, but it turns out that the test Warren took does NOT establish Native American ancestry. Even 1/1024 worth of it.

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The test she took suggested she might be between 1/64th and 1/1024th Mexican, Colombian, or Peruvian.

LOL

Which is also why the Cherokee Nation does not accept DNA results as a qualifying for tribe membership.

http://www.cherokee.org/Services/Tribal ... -Questions

Q: Can I just take a DNA test and send you the results?

A: We are unable to accept DNA results, blood tests or family photos as proof of ancestry.


ROFL

https://Twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status ... 1938887680

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You know you're losing the argument when you've been busted for regurgitating bad Right Wing websites that are easily refuted with a basic understanding of how to use a calculator, and now you have to keep posting Twitter feeds from Daily Caller idiots, using the largest images allowed by the forum.

Because when you're wrong, it is important to be visually loud about it.

And what better way to prove you're an idiot than to say DNA doesn't matter, because you have a photo of Warren's Mom and it proves she's too white to be "part Cherokee." Doubling down on refuted, Right Wing stupidity seems to be Water Dog's only play.
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Kevin, you are truly a gift. You are like the Michael Avenatti of the board. Thanks to you I can generally ignore more intelligent lefty arguments that would be more time consuming to deal with. When those leftists of greater intellect express tacit agreement with your imbecilic remarks, by ignoring them, by not calling you out for being the total dumbass that you are, for making them look bad, while going out of their way to "stalk," as RI likes to put it, small and petty things, they are in a form expressing agreement with your position. I can therefore debunk them, by simply laughing at you. And laughing I am.
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