Trump owes Warren $1 million. Will he pay his debt?

[_Kevin Graham]

Who said this?

"Harvard Law School hired its first woman of color, Elizabeth Warren, in 1995."

https://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-ha ... lor-123526

It sure as hell wasn't Warren, so who cares?

[_Kevin Graham]

I want to come back to this. Help me understand. You find the following image offensive? You are offended by this image, mocking Warren, but, wait, back up, you're not offended by Warren lying and presenting herself as a woman of color? Please help me understand.

She never called herself a woman of color and she never lied. You're just an idiot. The same idiot who bent over backwards in previous threads saying Kavanaugh never lied about anything and Donald Trump, the man who defrauded thousands of Americans with his scams and robbed taxpayers to the tune of a half billion dollars, is the only person looking out for the working American.

[_Jersey Girl]

I want to come back to this. Help me understand. You find the following image offensive? You are offended by this image, mocking Warren, but, wait, back up, you're not offended by Warren lying and presenting herself as a woman of color? Please help me understand.

You say: You find the following image offensive?

Yes, that was the gist of the remarks you're responding to. Your question is on point.

Then...you make this assertion:

You are offended by this image, mocking Warren, but, wait, back up, you're not offended by Warren lying and presenting herself as a woman of color? Please help me understand.

Which of us, who objected to the image, made such a statement?

This assertion has nothing to do with being offended by the image which was (as I said) the gist of the remarks you're responding to. It wasn't commented on. It's off point. It's not relevant.

Why did you choose to add it?

Are you looking for inconsistency? Hypocrisy?

Being offended by the image makes NO statement regarding her handling of the NA issue.

Stop making assumptions that don't exist. You're pulling stuff out of thin air that hasn't been expressed.

This is why many of your exchanges run off the rails.

[_Kevin Graham]

Warren had described herself as a minority on a law professors' listing for several years, ending in 1995. She has said she wanted to meet people like herself, but stopped when she realized that's not what the listing was for.

Later on, someone assumed this meant she was a "woman of color" but was wrong.

So what?

It is just friggin hilarious that the people who see no there there with the multiplicity of Trump scandals, insist this is a political death knell for Warren.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

It is just friggin hilarious that the people who see no there there with the multiplicity of Trump scandals, insist this is a political death knell for Warren.

Maybe some people see her as a less-than-effective political figure?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/201 ... story.html

Warren finds more satisfaction in making enemies than in making progress. According to a report card from the nonpartisan Lugar Center and Georgetown University’s McCourt School of Public Policy, Warren is one of the least bipartisan members of the Senate, ranking 85 out of 98 senators. (The Senate’s Republican and Democratic leaders are not included in the ranking).

Case in point: the 21st Century Cures Act, a rare bipartisan bill that provided billions of dollars for medical research and sped up the process of bringing life-saving drugs to the marketplace. When it came up for a vote last fall, Warren swung into inaction. Despite backing from President Obama and every other Democrat in the Massachusetts delegation, Warren denounced the bill in unusually harsh language as a giveaway to the health care industry.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

It is just friggin hilarious that the people who see no there there with the multiplicity of Trump scandals, insist this is a political death knell for Warren.

Maybe some people see her as a less-than-effective political figure?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/201 ... story.html

Warren finds more satisfaction in making enemies than in making progress. According to a report card from the nonpartisan Lugar Center and Georgetown University’s McCourt School of Public Policy, Warren is one of the least bipartisan members of the Senate, ranking 85 out of 98 senators. (The Senate’s Republican and Democratic leaders are not included in the ranking).

Case in point: the 21st Century Cures Act, a rare bipartisan bill that provided billions of dollars for medical research and sped up the process of bringing life-saving drugs to the marketplace. When it came up for a vote last fall, Warren swung into inaction. Despite backing from President Obama and every other Democrat in the Massachusetts delegation, Warren denounced the bill in unusually harsh language as a giveaway to the health care industry.

- Doc

It's stuff like that is Warren's strength as a political figure. If she wins, it's going to be on the back of that reputation right there. She has political weaknesses, chief among them being that the middlebrow press doesn't seem to like her, but being hyper-principled in not compromising with moneyed interests to horsetrade industry giveways for incremental policy progress is not it. She's as credible of an opposition to wealthy-gaming of the system candidate as you're gonna find in the Democratic party, and if the election can be made about that, she's well-positioned for it. Is the election gonna be about that? I don't know. That the Trump admin is unbelievably corrupt seems to provide that opening.

[_Kevin Graham]

Go ____ yourself. Conspiracies happen all the time. Prosecutors like your boy Mueller claim that they exist every day. I've represented clients where they were accused of being involved in a conspiracy, and guess what, there was a conspiracy. Also, my neighbor is doing a 9 year stretch in federal prison for a supposed conspiracy that he supposedly led. But, conspiracies don't exist, right? (at least that is what he claimed). Those who believe in them are cooks, if the conspiracy involves your favorite politicos of course. The mainstream media is rabid over a supposed Russia conspiracy that has yet to materialize but you try to claim that I am off by saying that Warren might have had other tests that weren't released????? I am a lawyer by trade and so is she. We plan by training. So, it isn't a stretch to think that maybe she did some other tests in order to make sure the results were accurate. She took her sweet time in releasing this data, so she could have done other tests as well. However, we never will know of course. Hence, it must be a crazy conspiracy. By the way, ____ off.

You're a damned idiot because you assume conspiracy with no evidence to back it up. Your claim that she probably got multiple DNA tests and only ran with the best one is typical Alex Jones crap. Your only support for this is... conspiracies exist elsewhere? Yeah, you're damned dumb.

[_Water Dog]

You say: You find the following image offensive?

Yes, that was the gist of the remarks you're responding to. Your question is on point.

Then...you make this assertion:

You are offended by this image, mocking Warren, but, wait, back up, you're not offended by Warren lying and presenting herself as a woman of color? Please help me understand.

Which of us, who objected to the image, made such a statement?

This assertion has nothing to do with being offended by the image which was (as I said) the gist of the remarks you're responding to. It wasn't commented on. It's off point. It's not relevant.

Why did you choose to add it?

Are you looking for inconsistency? Hypocrisy?

Being offended by the image makes NO statement regarding her handling of the NA issue.

Stop making assumptions that don't exist. You're pulling stuff out of thin air that hasn't been expressed.

This is why many of your exchanges run off the rails.

That's a very female way to answer the question, isn't it? Why do you always answer simple questions in this gender stereotypical way, that resembles a wife turning the tables on her husband, where she explains how her goofing something is actually his fault because, A + B = men are always at fault. When you show up to a thread, and the thing you hone in on is a MEME, that implies you don't actually care about the other much more relevant points. What beady little eyes you have, by the way, that you even noticed the Indian Photoshop at the bottom of that DNA visualization. Really? SRSLY? That's the thing you comment on? Haha.

Oh, and I didn't add it. Come on, why would you think I made that visualization? And still I just don't even get how it's offensive. It's mocking satire. It doesn't mock native americans, it mocks warren.

This is what makes no sense to me. You show up, something offends you, and you comment. Of all the things to be offended by, how is that the one which sticks out? If that offends you, I would think Warren would offend you a lot more. A LOT more. You should be outraged. It's like showing up to a discussion about someone who was raped. And then covered up. A serious crime was committed. But then the person who reported the crime, or some material witness who's speaking out, that person posted a gender insensitive joke on their Facebook page. And that's what you focus on. Oh, look at that, what an insensitive joke, so misogynistic. Hrrrh? And then others chime in, yeah, so offensive guys, so offensive, that's, yeah, that's just not right.

SMH. Don't get it. But cool, whatever.

[_canpakes]

I want to come back to this. Help me understand. You find the following image offensive? You are offended by this image, mocking Warren, but, wait, back up, you're not offended by Warren lying and presenting herself as a woman of color? Please help me understand.

That you think this comical stereotyping represents what Cherokee look like says much more about you than the woman who has the DNA proof of Native American relatives.

But, by all means, just keep piling on the stuff that proves that you have the maturity of a block of American Cheese.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

You're a damned idiot because you assume conspiracy with no evidence to back it up. Your claim that she probably got multiple DNA tests and only ran with the best one is typical Alex Jones crap. Your only support for this is... conspiracies exist elsewhere? Yeah, you're damned dumb.

Aaaaaand exhibit #2345 on why Democrats keep losing.

- Doc