Migrant Caravan Tears Down Border Fence, Storms Mexico

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Water Dog wrote:This is the best article I've seen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ested.html


Irineo Mujica, director of the organisation Pueblo Sin Fronteras in Mexico


'Pueblo without borders'. Huh. Well. No wonder they feel entitled to cross multiple borders without consequence.

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Well, they're still coming.

A ragged army of Honduran migrants streamed through southern Mexico on Sunday heading toward the United States, after making an end-run around Mexican agents who briefly blocked them at the Guatemalan border.

They received help at every turn from sympathetic Mexicans who offered food, water and clothing. Hundreds of locals driving pickups, vans and cargo trucks stopped to let them clamber aboard.

https://apnews.com/b709e05ec83c49e6876ff612141ae942

As with every issue the left seems to take a fanatic position on, this is going to blow up in their faces. Most in the country have been opposed to Trump's wall. After this they won't be. Assuming they make it to our border. Trump will deploy the military. AS HE SHOULD. It will be a crap show. The media will howl. Democrat pols will look like weak lawless morons. All this will accomplish is showing liberalism for the immature ideology that it is.
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One can only imagine how much these illegal immigrants will benefit the economy. Couple this with how much unemployment and disability benefit payouts help the ecomomy and we'll see a forever boom. Let them all in!
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:One can only imagine how much these illegal immigrants will benefit the economy. Couple this with how much unemployment and disability benefit payouts help the ecomomy and we'll see a forever boom. Let them all in!


Oh I have no doubt their work ethic would put them well above lazy assholes like you when it comes to looking for work.
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Water Dog wrote:I know, right?


Reporting on international incidents like this is normal, but making it front page stuff every day for a week is something your preferred propaganda sources would do because they try to scare people into being Republican. And they do it with racist horse crap like this.

Conservative Max Boot Slams Fox News On Caravan Coverage

Conservative columnist Max Boot called out President Donald Trump and Fox News for “demagoguery,” “racism” and “nativism” in their comments about the caravan of refugees that recently crossed the Mexico-Guatemala border.

Trump mentions the caravan at his campaign rallies and often says the 2018 midterm elections will the “the election of the caravan.”

“It is demagoguery,” Boot said Sunday on CNN. “It is also, I believe, racism and nativism really pandering to the fears of Trump supporters and Fox News viewers, who tend to be older white males who are alarmed about the supposed invasion of dark-skinned newcomers coming to America.”

The caravan is a group of thousands of would-be asylum-seekers mostly fleeing Honduras.

Boot said photographs and video of the caravan are being used to stir fears of invading masses.

“The threat is entirely bogus because, in fact, border crossings have declined dramatically in the last 18 years, down 80 percent,” said Boot, a CNN analyst. “There is not this massive army of illegal immigrants. And these people are not even illegal immigrants. They are refugees who are seeking legal admission to the United States.”

He added that the issue of immigration highlights how dramatically the Republican Party has changed.

“When I was growing up in the 1980s, the Republican Party was basically pro-immigration,” Boot said. “It was a conservative party with a white nationalist fringe. And under the impact of Fox News and Donald Trump it has transformed into essentially a white nationalist party with a conservative fringe.”

He added that Fox News and Trump are pushing a “xenophobic” view of the world to mobilize their base “for crass political purposes. It is tragic and it is despicable.”
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ajax18 wrote:One can only imagine how much these illegal immigrants will benefit the economy. Couple this with how much unemployment and disability benefit payouts help the ecomomy and we'll see a forever boom. Let them all in!


Someone willing to walk several thousand miles in flip-flops with children to make it to America strikes me as 1) more American than you and 2) someone who might work hard for opportunities.

You've been given reams of economic information on the impacts of immigration that you dismiss out of hand because it doesn't fit within xenophobic narratives you'd prefer to believe.
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You've been given reams of economic information on the impacts of immigration that you dismiss out of hand because it doesn't fit within xenophobic narratives you'd prefer to believe.


How much do you estimate this caravan will improve the standard of living for native born Americans, assuming we let them all in? When do you expect we'll be able to measure the amount of improvement?
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ajax18 wrote:
You've been given reams of economic information on the impacts of immigration that you dismiss out of hand because it doesn't fit within xenophobic narratives you'd prefer to believe.


How much do you estimate this caravan will improve the standard of living for native born Americans, assuming we let them all in? When do you expect we'll be able to measure the amount of improvement?

37.5% over 5 years.
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ajax18 wrote:
You've been given reams of economic information on the impacts of immigration that you dismiss out of hand because it doesn't fit within xenophobic narratives you'd prefer to believe.


How much do you estimate this caravan will improve the standard of living for native born Americans, assuming we let them all in? When do you expect we'll be able to measure the amount of improvement?


The impact of a few people in an economy hundreds of millions is negligible.
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The impact of a few people in an economy hundreds of millions is negligible.


What if we get 25 million over the next three years? Is that still negligible?
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