Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:If Leftists want the GOP to take ownership of these murders (talk about morbid politicking, trying to score political points off the murders of Jews, Jesus) then they better be ready to take ____ ownership off atheists murdering students in schools, Che Guevara murdering thousands in violent revolutions, Black people murdering Whites if it's racially motivated, and any other violence that stands in stark contrast to Conservatism when one of their own acts out. Just like with Kavanaugh if the Left wants to play games then it's going to get pretty ugly pretty fast.
I mean, Leftists will NEVER, under ANY circumstance, own the behavior of their rhetoric having influence over the population, but goddamn if they aren't quick to point the finger. Idiots.
- Doc
I see you have decided to go back to stupid mode. Ok. That's your prerogative, but in the meantime why don't you please try to compare apples and apples by pointing to any examples of sitting Presidents condoning conspiracy theories that lead to mass murders.
This is true in the context of British politics if you clean this up to refer to subcultures within Islamic and Labour politics. Not so much in America. In America you'd have to swap out the British far left for a radical minority within black politics, but that doesn't quite have the same impact. Of course, of those three groups, the only one that actually has real political power in America are the fascist and fascist-lite folks on the right.
And what from this Fox segment is problematic? He didn't say anything about "the protocols of the elders of zion" or anything at all like this.
Because precision of language in describing one’s conspiracy theories is the norm, right?
Now, now. He also didn't stand up and Heil Hitler in the middle of the segment, so that's proof right there that he's not sharing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories akin to what you would find in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Accept your pwnage.
Kevin Graham wrote:I'm just laughing at the thought that water dog actually believes he is taking anyone to the woodshed this boy does not know how to debate at all all he knows how to do is quote random Twitter feeds from God knows who.
Do you have some relevant experience working in the government than counters mine? Your attempts to pick fights don't impress me. You are precisely the sort of jew hating anti-Israel leftist lunatic that this is all about.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:If Leftists want the GOP to take ownership of these murders (talk about morbid politicking, trying to score political points off the murders of Jews, Jesus) then they better be ready to take ____ ownership off atheists murdering students in schools, Che Guevara murdering thousands in violent revolutions, Black people murdering Whites if it's racially motivated, and any other violence that stands in stark contrast to Conservatism when one of their own acts out. Just like with Kavanaugh if the Left wants to play games then it's going to get pretty ugly pretty fast.
I mean, Leftists will NEVER, under ANY circumstance, own the behavior of their rhetoric having influence over the population, but goddamn if they aren't quick to point the finger. Idiots.
- Doc
There's a lot going wrong here. Res Ipsa decided to focus on how no work is being done to connect how atheist rhetoric actually motivates atheists to shoot up schools. There's a difference between a person shooting up a school who happens to be atheist and a person being specifically motivated by their atheism to shoot up a school. And there's even a difference between that and mainstream atheist discourse playing a encouraging factor in that motivation happening.
But what gets me first is the strawman argument that anyone at all is arguing that any rhetoric that can be generally called conservative is being blames for any specific conservative attack. No one is saying, "Conservatives are to blame because this conservative killed people." Rather, the argument is that specific bigoted, dehumanizing, and inciting language bears some responsibility for violence so motivated by it. Arguing that doesn't commit an Ezra Klein fan to also taking responsibility for Che Guevera.
Water Dog wrote:What about?!What about?!What about?!What about?!
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I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I? I know you are, but what am I?
EAllusion wrote:No one is saying, "Conservatives are to blame because this conservative killed people." Rather, the argument is that specific bigoted, dehumanizing, and inciting language bears some responsibility for violence so motivated by it.
Yes.
But is it not astonishing that this very obvious truth needs to be stated at all?
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
