Jeff Sessions is out

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How about the Democrats spend the next two years proposing legislation that the people want and show how obstructionist Republicans are preventing passage? Then put up a candidate that the people like, instead of Clinton, and Trump won't stand a chance? End the wars, cut the military budget in half at least, go after monopolists (Facebook, google, etc.), give us better healthcare and not some bill that allows premiums to skyrocket (go after healthcare monopolies?), reform student loans (maybe free education?), fix infrastructure, and give real incentives for alternative energy.

Or they can continue to push the Russia hysteria and try and look at Trump's tax returns to see if he took advantage of loop holes (we all know what the answer is) and waste our time. People are tired of corporate democrats telling us no we can't
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Someday someone's gonna write the story of all this. It will show that Obama screwed democrats for a lifetime. He thought he was smarter than our process and didn't understand the political reality. Living in a bubble, sooner or later you suffocate.
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Exiled wrote:How about the Democrats spend the next two years proposing legislation that the people want and show how obstructionist Republicans are preventing passage?


Please list all the forms of legislation the people want, and then please explain why it will not backfire when the House is unable to get it past the Senate.

Exiled wrote:Then put up a candidate that the people like, instead of Clinton, and Trump won't stand a chance?


You mean someone they "don't like" who can still win the popular vote by more than 3 million?

Exiled wrote:End the wars, cut the military budget in half at least, go after monopolists (Facebook, google, etc.), give us better healthcare and not some bill that allows premiums to skyrocket (go after healthcare monopolies?), reform student loans (maybe free education?), fix infrastructure, and give real incentives for alternative energy.


And you believe this is all within the power of the House, and naïve enough to believe the Republican Senate/Prez would ever allow anything to happen if it means the Democrats can take credit? You're basically expecting them to reintroduce Obamacare 2.0.

Exiled wrote:Or they can continue to push the Russia hysteria and try and look at Trump's tax returns to see if he took advantage of loop holes (we all know what the answer is) and waste our time. People are tired of corporate democrats telling us no we can't


Calling it hysteria over and over doesn't make it so. It's like you're willfully swallowing the Trump rhetoric. Why? This is beyond just seeing if he used a friggin loophole. This is about finding out how his businesses are being financed given the fact that no American bank will do business with him. I don't care how much of a Trumper someone is, if they find out Trump is financially beholden to Saudi Arabia or Russia, that would probably do it for most of them.
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Rod Rosenstein now has been pulled off the Mueller probe.
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Water Dog wrote:Someday someone's gonna write the story of all this. It will show that Obama screwed democrats for a lifetime. He thought he was smarter than our process and didn't understand the political reality. Living in a bubble, sooner or later you suffocate.


Trump is going to go down in history as the most despicable, embarrassing, corrupt President to ever hold office. He's basically checked off every box there is in the list of possible scandals. Sexual assault? Check. Obstruction of justice? check. Cover ups and mafia like retributions? Check. Treason? Utter contempt for our nation's democratic institutions? Check. Contempt for the Constitution? Check. I mean the list really does go on and on and any one of these would have ruined the career of any Democrat because a Democrat's voters aren't morally bankrupt like Trump's. How do I know? Because after two years of mounting evidence proving how horrible of a person he is, here you are like a complete moron talking about how bad Obama was. Trump could walk into your house one morning, fondle your wife and take a crap in your corn flakes and you'd be on this forum the same day bragging about how awesome it was to be visited by his holiness.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Trump is going to go down in history as the most despicable, embarrassing, corrupt President to ever hold office.

I think you are being optimistic about who will be writing history with the way things are going.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:From some brief Google-fu, it looks like Whitacre’s basic timeline is:

- Join advisory board of a firm that gets closed by the FTC for Fraud.
- Write an op-ed saying Meuller is going too far.
- Become Chief of Staff a month later.
- Have Kelly describe you as a Trump loyalist.
- Become AG.

It is not subtle why he was picked:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/MattWhitaker ... 9962100736
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Kevin Graham wrote:Calling it hysteria over and over doesn't make it so. It's like you're willfully swallowing the Trump rhetoric. Why? This is beyond just seeing if he used a friggin loophole. This is about finding out how his businesses are being financed given the fact that no American bank will do business with him. I don't care how much of a Trumper someone is, if they find out Trump is financially beholden to Saudi Arabia or Russia, that would probably do it for most of them.


The Russia excuse as to why Clinton lost has been debunked. I listed the evidence for the debunking on another thread. But I can list it again if you need to see it. There was no collusion and I think Putin is smarter than to go with a clown like Trump. The only collusion was between the mainstream media/DNC to get Clinton the nomination instead of the wildly popular Sanders. This is what I mean by putting up someone the people want.

As for an actual legislative agenda, why not actually do something positive instead of trying to prove what is already proven. Trump is a clown. His popularity ratings aren't that great and would certainly go down further if a populist democrat ran against him, backed by a popular legislative agenda.
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Clinton was significantly more popular among Democrats than Sanders exiled. You may wish that weren’t so, but she crushed him in the popular vote even though Sanders did best in caucuses that inherently limit participation.

Your views and sources on Russian involvement in the 2016 election and possible Trump knowledge and cooperation are dubious to say the least.

Finally, don’t be the sort of person who thinks the Democrats key to winning is adopting your personal policy preferences. It rarely works like that and it makes someone look like they are rationalizing.
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