Another Mass Shooting- 11 dead +1 Sheriff

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Between this mass shooting and the synagogue shooting, there’s been 11 other mass shootings defined as having 4 or more victims.

We have a bit of a mass shooting problem is what I am saying.


Can you source it? I'd like to see what you're seeing.

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Thanks, EA. I appreciate having this to look over. Unfortunately.
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Jersey Girl wrote:


Thanks, EAllusion. I appreciate having this to look over. Unfortunately.


Fun fact: I was literally right down the road when the one in Middleton, WI happened.
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Jersey Girl wrote:From the ever growing long list of mass shooters in the U.S., how many were NRA members?


I have no idea.

But every elected official, whether an NRA member or not, has to be worried about offending the NRA, since it is well known that if they start advertising against you, your chances of re-election are considerably diminished.

Hence, I suspect, the sheriff's failure to say something obvious like 'Well, in a country where it's incredibly easy for a highly disturbed person to buy and keep a firearm, what do you expect?'. Instead, we got foot shuffling.
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EAllusion wrote:Between this mass shooting and the synagogue shooting, there’s been 11 other mass shootings defined as having 4 or more victims.

We have a bit of a mass shooting problem is what I am saying.

Mass is a bit hyperbolic since your source material has you basically defining "mass" as anything involving more than 1 victim....and includes murder/suicide.
But semantics aside....how many mass shootings a year would qualify, in your determination, as being "not a problem"?
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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Between this mass shooting and the synagogue shooting, there’s been 11 other mass shootings defined as having 4 or more victims.

We have a bit of a mass shooting problem is what I am saying.

Mass is a bit hyperbolic since your source material has you basically defining "mass" as anything involving more than 1 victim....and includes murder/suicide.
But semantics aside....how many mass shootings a year would qualify, in your determination, as being "not a problem"?


Notice in the post I wrote that you are quoting I said the definition is 4 or more victims then linked a source that used that definition.

I'll answer your question when you can tell me at what temperature the weather becomes "too hot" within the nearest tenth of a degree. Thanks.
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Xenophon wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:We've become desensitized to mass shootings. The yoga studio shootings in Florida barely made a ripple.
I too was surprised by how quickly that was glossed over, it has a lot of the more popular elements for being a wide reaching story. I think there was just so much going on that it kind of was just overlooked.



There's some startling background information regarding the shooter, as introduced in your own link ...

The man who shot dead two women at a yoga studio in Tallahassee, Florida, on Friday before killing himself was a far-right extremist and self-proclaimed misogynist who railed against women, black people, and immigrants in a series of online videos and songs.

Scott Beierle, 40, was named by Tallahassee Police as the gunman who opened fire inside the Hot Yoga Tallahassee studio, killing two and injuring four other women and a man.

Those killed were named as Dr. Nancy Van Vessem, 61, who worked at Florida State University's College of Medicine, and FSU student Maura Binkley, 21.

On a YouTube channel in 2014, Beierle filmed several videos of himself offering extremely racist and misogynistic opinions in which he called women “sluts” and “whores,” and lamented “the collective treachery” of girls he went to high school with.

“There are whores in — not only every city, not only every town, but every village,” he said, referring to women in interracial relationships, who he said had betrayed “their blood.”

Officer Damon Miller of the Tallahassee Police Department said he could not tell BuzzFeed News whether women were specifically targeted in the attack or whether these online posts were the subject of detectives’ inquiries.

“Everything that he has a connection to we're investigating right now," Miller said.

Police said they were still investigating a motive, but noted Beierle had previously been investigated for harassing women.

In one video called “Plight of the Adolescent Male,” he named Elliot Rodger, who killed six people and injured 14 and is often seen as a hero for so-called “incels,” or those who consider themselves “involuntarily celibate.”

“I’d like to send a message now to the adolescent males... that are in the position, the situation, the disposition of Elliot Rodger, of not getting any, no love, no nothing. This endless wasteland that breeds this longing and this frustration. That was me, certainly, as an adolescent,” he said.

This is the second deadly attack this year in which Rodger has been mentioned by the suspected assailant. A man who wrote anti-women references on his Facebook account allegedly killed 10 people in Toronto in April when he drove his van into a crowd. “The Incel Rebellion has already begun!” Alek Minassian wrote on Facebook prior to the attack in a post that also mentioned “the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!”
Some in the incel community have previously raged against women wearing yoga pants.

Another of Beierle’s 2014 videos was titled “The Rebirth of my Misogynism,” and featured him listing the names of women — from eighth grade until his time in the Army — who he said caused his “rebirth.” (A Pentagon spokesperson told BuzzFeed News Beierle served from 2008-2010).

In the video he said women were capable of “treachery” and “lying.” He spoke aggressively about women giving him their phone number even when they had a boyfriend and how angry it made him. He also mentioned a girl who cancelled dates on him. “I could have ripped her head off,” he said.
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