Jim Acosta Thread

[_Jersey Girl]

Cam read it. Look at what I bolded. He addresses it to the "The FAKE NEWS media" and then lists nearly every outlet. I've never seen him list them all or simply refer blanketly to "The media". If you have other quotes that suggest otherwise, you're free to post the quotes. I don't want to waste your time on this because I'm not terribly interested but if you feel like it, go for it. I'll be back later.

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The FAKE NEWS media (failing
@nytimes
,
@NBCNews
,
@ABC
,
@CBS
,
@CNN
) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!
2:48 PM · Feb 17, 2017 · Twitter for Android

- Doc

[_DarkHelmet]

I've never actually heard him say that "The media" or "The free press" is the enemy of the people without using the qualifier "Fake news". It's been misrepresented every time I've read or heard it reported that way.

Ironically, this is coming from the mouth of a chronic liar who misrepresents and distorts fact like it's his job.

The qualifier is meaningless. Trump abuses the term "fake news". To us, fake news means exactly what it says. To Trump, fake news is any news that is critical of Trump, regardless of how accurate the news is. Real news is any news that praises Trump, regardless of how inaccurate it is. It's surreal, straight out the 1984 playbook.

[_Jersey Girl]

Oh crap. Hurry it up if you're going to do it. I have to go.

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
There is great anger in our Country caused in part by inaccurate, and even fraudulent, reporting of the news. The Fake News Media, the true Enemy of the People, must stop the open & obvious hostility & report the news accurately & fairly. That will do much to put out the flame...

135K
5:03 AM - Oct 29, 2018

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

k

[_Jersey Girl]

The qualifier is meaningless. Trump abuses the term "fake news". To us, fake news means exactly what it says. To Trump, fake news is any news that is critical of Trump, regardless of how accurate the news is. Real news is any news that praises Trump, regardless of how inaccurate it is. It's surreal, straight out the 1984 playbook.

I understand exactly what you're saying in terms of how he interprets and characterizes Trump critical reporting.

But, words have meaning. Without applying my own political bias to it, I can easily see that the Washington Post headline itself was inaccurate.

Hillary Clinton called fake news "an epidemic". Do you disagree that it is?

[_Jersey Girl]

Going. I'll return at some point here.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
I just cannot state strongly enough how totally dishonest much of the Media is. Truth doesn’t matter to them, they only have their hatred & agenda. This includes fake books, which come out about me all the time, always anonymous sources, and are pure fiction. Enemy of the People!

------------

I mean, do I need to keep posting, or are still playing reindeer games?

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people. She correctly said no. It is the FAKE NEWS, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people!

143K
1:24 PM - Aug 2, 2018

----------

He straight up says a large percentage of the press is fake news which is the enemy of the people. Those words, those exact words, "enemy of the people" has been used by the 20th century's most murderous dictators.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

The qualifier is meaningless. Trump abuses the term "fake news". To us, fake news means exactly what it says. To Trump, fake news is any news that is critical of Trump, regardless of how accurate the news is. Real news is any news that praises Trump, regardless of how inaccurate it is. It's surreal, straight out the 1984 playbook.

I understand exactly what you're saying in terms of how he interprets and characterizes Trump critical reporting.

But, words have meaning. Without applying my own political bias to it, I can easily see that the Washington Post headline itself was inaccurate.

Hillary Clinton called fake news "an epidemic". Do you disagree that it is?

Trump has specifically described the “fake news media” as including a list of almost every major mainstream journalistic outfit.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

From business Insider:

Taking aim specifically at the media, Trump repeated his attack from a tweet last week that "the fake news media" is "the enemy of the people."

"And they are," he said. "They are the enemy of the people.

"They're very dishonest people," he added. "In fact, in covering my comments, the dishonest media did not explain that I called the fake news the enemy of the people. The fake news. They dropped off the word 'fake.' And all of a sudden, the story became the media is the enemy. They take the word 'fake' out. And now I'm saying, 'Oh, no, this is no good.' But that's the way they are. So I'm not against the media, I'm not against the press. I don't mind bad stories if I deserve them. And I tell ya, I love good stories."

He decried the use of anonymous sourcing, a stance on which his administration has doubled down as a tactic to sow doubt in reporting from major news organizations that has painted his White House in a negative light. Some of that reporting led to Trump asking Michael Flynn to resign as national security adviser last week.

The White House also took issue with a Thursday report from CNN that relied on anonymous law-enforcement sources to paint a picture of a conversation between White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and a top FBI official.

"They should put the name of the person," he said. "You will see stories dry up like you've never seen before. So you have no idea how bad it is, because if you are not part of the story — and I put myself in your position sometimes — because many of you, you're not part of the story. And if you're not part of the story, you know, then you sort of know — if you are part of the story, you know what they're saying is true or not."

Bannon repeatedly referred to the news media as "the opposition party" during his appearance alongside Priebus at CPAC Thursday. He said it's "always wrong" and addressed some of the stories of discord in the administration.

Steve Bannon Reince Priebus
Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus at CPAC. AP

"Just like they were dead wrong on the chaos of the campaign, and just like they were dead wrong in the chaos of the transition, they are absolutely dead wrong about what's going on today because we have a team that's just grinding it through on [what] President Donald Trump promised the American people," he said. "And the mainstream media better understand something: All of those promises are going to be implemented."

Later in his interview with American Conservative Union President Matt Schlapp, Bannon said the critical coverage "makes sense" because news outlets are "corporatist, globalist media that are adamantly opposed — adamantly opposed to an economic nationalist agenda like Donald Trump has."

Trump repeated a similar claim in his Friday address after saying he loved the First Amendment, which includes freedom of the press.

"But the First Amendment gives all of us — it gives it to me, it gives it to you, it gives it to all Americans — the right to speak our minds freely," he said. "It gives you the right and me the right to criticize fake news, and criticize it strongly.

"And many of these groups are part of the large media corporations that have their own agenda, and it's not your agenda, and it's not the country's agenda — it's their own agenda," he continued. "They have a professional obligation as members of the press to report honestly. But as you saw throughout the entire campaign and even now, the fake news doesn't tell the truth. Doesn't tell the truth. So just in finishing, I say it doesn't represent the people, it doesn't tell the — never will represent the people, and we're going to do something about it because we have to go out and have to speak our minds, and we have to be honest."

-----------

When Jersey Girl insinuates we need to take Trump's word with nuance she negects to inform us of just which media organizations Trump has told us are allies of the American people, but we certainly know which ones he considers enemies. This is incredibly dangerous, because it's patently obvious if you print something he doesn't like he'll call it fake news, and you are now among the enemy of the people.

Jersey Girl,

What's good way to summarize Trump's position so we don't have to always caveat his words to suit your notion of reality?

- Doc