Avenatti's up schiesse creek in LA

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subgenius wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:Both CNN and MSNBC interrupted their shows to report on it. So you're a moron.

He was arrested but not booked. Not sure what all that means. Didn't even know he was married. Thought he was gay actually.

Well, we sure appreciated your vigorous defense and support of Avenatti in this thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... t=avenatti

LMAO ON THAT ONE!!! Was so hilarious. Kg is “the definition” of ignorance!!!
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subgenius wrote: Well, we sure appreciated your vigorous defense and support of Avenatti in this thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... t=avenatti

And I stand by it because it was well justified.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
subgenius wrote: Well, we sure appreciated your vigorous defense and support of Avenatti in this thread:

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... t=avenatti

And I stand by it because it was well justified.

As was this great performance:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6PP87SiXU

Kg, you go for the bait faster than Whoopi and the other ignorant ladies!
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Why is it so easy to dupe liberals?
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If Surefire Intelligence Really Was Behind False Avenatti Police Report, Jacob Wohl Could Be in Deep Trouble

So, fresh off of the infamous Jacob Wohl–Jack Burkman presser, in which the pair baselessly accused Special Counsel Robert Mueller of sexual assault, the much-mocked pseudo-investigative firm of Wohl’s, Surefire Intelligence, is back in the news again. Why? Because there’s speculation that Surefire Intelligence was behind a police report claiming that anti-Trump attorney Michael Avenatti struck a woman.

Why? Because the Surefire Intelligence Twitter account appeared to take credit for Avenatti’s arrest.

How else is one to interpret the tweet “Surefire Intelligence strikes again” — a tweet also making reference to Avenatti’s arrest on suspicion of felony domestic violence.

First, let’s review some context about Surefire Intelligence.

Surefire Intelligence was eventually found to be Wohl’s operation, despite his initial denial of involvement. Right-wing site Gateway Pundit revealed that the initial story they ran containing allegations against Mueller was published directly on the website and “authored by Jacob Wohl himself.” They identified Wohl as a “journalist and founder of Sure Fire Intelligence.”

Before that ever happened, it was discovered that an email address with Wohl’s name on it was linked to the domain registration of Surefire Intelligence, profiles for purported employees of the firm were transparently fictitious. Managing partner “Matthew Cohen‘s” profile featured a picture that was quickly found to be a photo of Wohl. It is the one pictured at the top of this article.

Most comically, reverse image searches revealed that other profiles contained photos that were just edited images of famous people, Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli and Hollywood star Christoph Waltz included. Aric Toler wrote the most comprehensive story on how Surefire Intelligence was traced to Wohl.

Then there was the detail that the phone number listed on the Surefire Intelligence website redirected to voicemail — Wohl’s mom’s voicemail. This detail will never be forgotten. Conveniently, Gateway Pundit has posted an article about the Avenatti situation: “Jacob Wohl Speaks Out on Avenatti Threat: ‘Did I Mind-Control Him and Force Him to Beat a Woman?… He Should Have His Bail Revoked.'”

All of that aside, Michael Avenatti has denied that he has ever struck a woman, and added that he expects to be “fully exonerated.” His two exes both released statements saying he has not abused them and would never hit them.

Christine Avenatti Carlin tweeted

"I have known Michael Avenatti for over 26 years we met when he was 21 years old and we were married for 13 years. Michael has ALWAYS been a kind loving father to our two daughters and husband to me. He has NEVER been abusive to me or anyone else. He is a good man."

Lisa Avenatti-Storie tweeted:

"I haven’t see Michael in months. It’s a complete fabrication. It’s a lie. It’s all a lie. Bruises on my face? It is insanity. He wouldn’t hit anybody. Especially a woman. He’s got 2 daughters."

It was Avenatti-Storie who TMZ initially said was the “estranged wife” victim in this case, but she quickly denied that through her attorneys. Avenatti claims that he has “not been charged with anything, let alone a felony.” He also questioned TMZ’s news-gathering.

Avenatti tweeted:

"There is a lot of inaccurate reporting out there. For example, (1) I have NOT been charged with anything, let alone a felony; (2) Lisa wasn't even with me Tues; etc. Numerous other "facts" being reported are completely bogus. Why is TMZ's news "standard" the new standard? 12:15 PM - Nov 15, 2018


Right now there are a couple of problems: LAPD did confirm when asked by Law&Crime that “Yes, there’s a victim in this case,” but we don’t know who that is. We also don’t know which facts are accurate and which facts aren’t. Plus, character witnesses are disputing Avenatti would do this.

Police did tell the Associated Press that the victim had visible injuries. This explains the seriousness of the felony charge. Bail was also set at $50,000.

Attorney and celebrity legal expert Jill Stanley told Law&Crime that the LAPD would only have made this arrest if they regarded the accuser as credible; that is, probable cause was there.

“If she was a credible witness, that is sufficient,” she said. So we have a victim and we have visible injuries, but where did those injuries come from? The victim says Avenatti caused them and Avenatti denied it. It remains to be seen if information about a hospital visit, eyewitness testimony, or surveillance footage exists.

The timing of this is also notable. In just the last few weeks this has happened: Avenatti was hit with a $4.85 million verdict after being sued by former law partner Jason Frank. His client Julie Swetnick‘s sexual misconduct claims against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh have been referred to the DOJ for a criminal probe. A federal judge dismissed Stormy Daniels’ lawsuit against President Trump and allowed Trump to seek legal fees. The Michael Cohen defamation suit isn’t going well. Now this, as Avenatti mulls a possible run for the presidency in 2020.

But back to Surefire Intelligence for a moment. Avenatti certainly saw the “intelligence firm’s” aforementioned tweet and said: “First Mueller and now me.”

"First Mueller and now me. When we are fully exonerated I am coming for you Jacob Wohl a.k.a. Surefire."
9:44 AM - Nov 15, 2018

“When we are fully exonerated I am coming for you Jacob Wohl a.k.a. Surefire,” he added. Law&Crime reached out to Avenatti for comment on what he meant by that, but it stands to reason that he would pursue a defamation case.

Jill Stanley confirmed that, if this was a false accusation as Avenatti claims, significant damages have been caused to Avenatti’s reputation and he could pursue a defamation case.

For example, the allegations have already impacted Avenatti’s promised 2020 presidential run.

Avenatti was scheduled to hold events with the Vermont Democratic Party this Friday and Saturday. Those events were cancelled after this news came out, according to the Burlington Free Press. There’s also the very real possibility that this would harm Avenatti’s law firm business.

And make no mistake, if Wohl was behind this as the Surefire Intelligence tweet suggested, he’s looking at possible jail time for filing a false report (if it is indeed false).

California Penal Code 148.5 says the following on filing false reports:

Every person who reports to any peace officer listed in Section 830.1 or 830.2, or subdivision (a) of Section 830.33, the Attorney General, or a deputy attorney general, or a district attorney, or a deputy district attorney that a felony or misdemeanor has been committed, knowing the report to be false, is guilty of a misdemeanor.


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So the plot thickens, and it looks like there are still a lot of unanswered questions. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
subgenius wrote: Well, we sure appreciated your vigorous defense and support of Avenatti in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=49938&hilit=avenatti

And I stand by it because it was well justified.

and now, suddenly, ill bet you're once again a fan of due process.
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I can think of nothing that would be more devastating to the credibility of the recent accusation of Avenatti than the prospect of Jacob Wohl and Surefire Intelligence being in any way associated with it, with the possible exception of knowing that subgenius supports or believes the accusation.
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Bach wrote:Why is it so easy to dupe liberals?

After the Jade Helm invasion and FEMA death camps were thwarted, liberals do seem to have grown much more gullible. It'll probably get worse since their pedophilia dungeon at Ping-Pong Pizza was forced to shut down.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Bach wrote:Why is it so easy to dupe liberals?

After the Jade Helm invasion and FEMA death camps were thwarted, liberals do seem to have grown much more gullible. It'll probably get worse since their pedophilia dungeon at Ping-Pong Pizza was forced to shut down.


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subgenius wrote:and now, suddenly, ill bet you're once again a fan of due process.


We've always been a fan of due process. It is amazing how predictable you are. You're just regurgitating FOX News's rant, as if you truly cannot think for yourself. You just wait to find out what you're supposed to say from the Right Wing propaganda mill.


@MichaelAvenatti
16 hours ago
"Contrary to @foxnews and others, I have always advocated for due process including with Judge Kavanaugh (we demanded a full and thorough investigation repeatedly). Any claim to the contrary is bogus. Many of these “pundits” don’t even know what legal due process is."



@MichaelAvenatti
11 hours ago
@seanhannity - I have been asking you to have me on your show to discuss various issues for 8 months. You refuse. The last two nights, you have gone after me over my beliefs re “due process.” Have me on and let’s have a real discussion about due process for me & Kavanaugh.
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