Divorce Number 3 Turning Nasty For Rudy Giuliani

[_ajax18]

Do you have any doubt that the divorce settlement she is now getting was what she really wanted out of this marriage in the first place?

Do you have any doubt that any man who legally marries a woman is pretty stupid and masochistic given the current laws and precedents in divorce court?

[_Gunnar]

Do you have any doubt that any man who legally marries a woman is pretty stupid and masochistic given the current laws and precedents in divorce court?

Yes, I do! I legally married my wife 50 years ago, and still consider it the best decision I ever made!

[_Kevin Graham]

GOP the party of family values?

staying in a loveless marriage is not a family value. I think you are confused.

oh, and while Rudy is a Republican, Republicans aren't Rudy.

Suddenly you're familiar with all the intricacies of the Giuliani marriages?

He was an absolute failure at marriage, but you know all about that too.

Failure to maintain a stable family environment seems crucial to practicing family values, does it not? But this just a scam. It was all bogus political rhetoric from the party of guns, God, greed, poverty shaming, racism, "family values." From Newt Gingrich to Roy Moore and Donald Trump, this notion that they in some way have more value for families is pretty friggin hilarious.

States with the top five highest divorce rates were mostly Republican, while the states with the lowest number of divorces were almost evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats.

From personal anecdote, my racist Trump worshiping step-father has been married three times, and has 6 biological children spread across the country who want nothing to do with him. But he has Jesus. Virtually every Trump loving redneck I know in N. Georgia spends most of their time trying to save money, not for the kids living with their ex-wives, but for their next tattoo or their next upgrade on their truck (usually in the form of a "lock her up" or "Hillary for prison" bumper sticker). Because, you know, family values!

[_ajax18]

Yes, I do! I legally married my wife 50 years ago, and still consider it the best decision I ever made!

Well good for you, perhaps you found a good one uncontaminated from modern femism and antimale family court.

[_Kevin Graham]

Yes, I do! I legally married my wife 50 years ago, and still consider it the best decision I ever made!

Well good for you, perhaps you found a good one uncontaminated from modern femism and antimale family court.

Oh gee, ajax, another woman hating Right Winger who obviously couldn't keep a family together. Maybe it had more to do with his abject stupidity and bigotry than anything else. Republicans always love to blame other people for their own shortcomings.

[_ajax18]

Oh gee, ajax, another woman hating Right Winger who obviously couldn't keep a family together.

I've kept my family together. I haven't been happy doing so, but I've ultimately kept us together when most men probably wouldn't have put up with it.

Nobody judges women harshly who ask for a divorce. I don't judge DJT or Giuliani harshly for having a failed marriage. The woman always has the upper hand.

I have a daughter now that means the world to me. She's given me a different perspective on women. I like the father/daughter relationship much more than any male/female romantic relationship. Women really suck in those kind of relationships in my experience.

[_Chap]

... any male/female romantic relationship. Women really suck in those kind of relationships in my experience.

Poor women. They just couldn't raise their game to the level required for a relationship with ajax18, could they?

[_Gunnar]

Oh gee, ajax, another woman hating Right Winger who obviously couldn't keep a family together.

I've kept my family together. I haven't been happy doing so, but I've ultimately kept us together when most men probably wouldn't have put up with it.

Nobody judges women harshly who ask for a divorce. I don't judge DJT or Giuliani harshly for having a failed marriage. The woman always has the upper hand.

I have a daughter now that means the world to me. She's given me a different perspective on women. I like the father/daughter relationship much more than any male/female romantic relationship. Women really suck in those kind of relationships in my experience.

I'm sorry you've had such an unhappy marriage relationship. Is that why you have such a negative attitude about women and minorities in general? Or is it rather your attitude that caused, at least in part, the unhappiness you experienced in your marriage, or, perhaps even more likely, that your misogynistic and bigoted attitude along with your marital unhappiness formed a vicious, positive feedback loop that continuously amplified both?

[_ajax18]

I'm sorry you've had such an unhappy marriage relationship. Is that why you have such a negative attitude about women and minorities in general?

There's nothing to be sorry about. I'm just being honest. Most marriages aren't happy. Most marriages don't last. Life isn't happiness most of the time. These are just facts of life that I've come to learn and accept. When we stop expecting everything to be color de rosas, we'll start doing a better job providing stable homes and families for the next generation.

I'm not sure what minorities have to do with any of this. I wouldn't marry a woman who considered herself a minority.

[_DrW]

Do you have any doubt that any man who legally marries a woman is pretty stupid and masochistic given the current laws and precedents in divorce court?

Yes, I do! I legally married my wife 50 years ago, and still consider it the best decision I ever made!

Agree wholeheartedly, Gunnar. Right there with you. Half century of marriage to a good woman (in my case an immigrant) can do wonders for a man. Marriage to the right spouse makes all the difference in the world.

In the endgame, a loving spouse and a close knit family are worth more in terms of continued health, longevity and happiness than all the notoriety and money one could possibly accumulate.

Trump and Giuliani are absolute counter examples of the benefits of a good marriage. Trump's marriages have failed, his businesses have failed, his ex-wives hate him, his kids are under-educated, fatally spoiled, headed to jail, or estranged, and now he must keep looking over his shoulder because of the way he has lied and cheated his way through life. He is often up at 3:00 am tweeting nearly incoherent rants against his enemies, real and perceived. Not being able to sleep at night is truly a curse - and and beyond age 70, a reliable indication of a deteriorating mind.

Recent public behaviors displayed by both Trump and Giuliani are also good indicators of deteriorating minds.