November Election Thread

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Update on Florida - Andrew Gillum won't concede, gains just 1 vote on Ron DeSantis.

- Doc

[_Kevin Graham]

#hethinkstherewasabluewavehahaha

Of course it was a wave. Democrats took control of the house and picked up 39 seats in places where Trump won huge just two years ago. The American people have spoken. Even in areas where they didn't win, Trump's popularity has obviously plummeted. Flipping 39 seats away from the President's party during a good economy is unheard of.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

With the news today that the Democrats picked up another seat in CA, making it a net positive of FIVE seats in CA, they currently sit at 231 seats in the House of Representatives. How is this not a Blue wave?

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- Doc

[_Brackite]

With the news today that the Democrats picked up another seat in CA, making it a net positive of FIVE seats in CA, they currently sit at 231 seats in the House of Representatives. How is this not a Blue wave?

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- Doc

The GOP is now officially dead in California.

RIP, California GOP: Republicans lash out after midterm election debacle

LOS ANGELES — In the wake of a near-political annihilation in California that has left even longtime conservative stronghold Orange County bereft of a single Republican in the House of Representatives, a growing chorus of GOP loyalists here say there’s only one hope for reviving the flatlining party: Blow it up and start again from scratch.

That harsh assessment comes as Republicans survey the damage from the devastation of a “blue tsunami” in California which wiped out five GOP-held House seats — with more still threatened — while handing every statewide seat and a supermajority to the Democrats in both houses of the state legislature this week

The latest blows wiped out two more GOP seats in Southern California: Democrat Katie Porter, an UC Irvine professor, on Thursday was declared the winner over Republican Rep. Mimi Walters in a district which represents the beating political heart of Orange County, and Democrat Gil Cisneros completed the sweep Saturday, winning the neighboring open seat formerly held by Republican Ed Royce.

“I believe that the party has to die before it can be rebuilt. And by die — I mean, completely decimated. And I think Tuesday night was a big step,’’ says veteran California GOP political consultant Mike Madrid. “There is no message. There is no messenger. There is no money. And there is no infrastructure.”

Republicans like Madrid also mourned another low point this week: the defeat of Southern California Assemblyman Dante Acosta, marking the demise of the last GOP Latino legislator — in a state where Latinos comprise the fastest-growing electorate.

“The California Republican Party isn’t salvageable at this time. The Grand Old Party is dead,” wrote former state GOP Assembly leader Kristin Olsen, who startled fellow Republicans with a brutally frank op-ed this week saying Republicans must acknowledge their “serious problem” in California, particularly the effects of toxicity of President Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politi ... le-1000481


And Democratic Gavin Newsom won California's Governor race by a larger margin than Governor Jerry Brown four years ago.

2014 Brown ----- 4,388,368 - 60.0%
2018 Newsom - 7,088,755 - 61.6%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califor ... tion,_2018

[_Brackite]

Arizona is now a purple state.

Behind Katie Hobbs' win: How Democrats flipped Arizona's 2nd-highest office:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcent ... 1991815002


The blue wave was real.

Democrats won House popular vote by largest midterm margin since Watergate:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna938996


The only real disappointment for Democrats during the 2018 mid-term elections was losing the Florida Senate race by a very slim margin.

Florida’s zany election season ends, results certified:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.orland ... y,amp.html

[_EAllusion]

Before Evers takes office, Republicans in Wisconsin are moving back the date of our presidential primary, which is going to be an expensive logistical nightmare that reduces the state's influence in the primary process, solely because it significantly increases the chances a Republican will win the State Supreme Court election. If that election were held on the same day as the presidential primary, as planned, it would favor Democrats because Democrats will have a contested primary that will drive voters to the polls while Republicans will not.

They are also moving to further restrict voting access in ways that specifically target Democrats.

[_Brackite]

Arizona's GOP Governor here got re-elected mainly because he is more moderate and not as partisan as Governor Walker.

Part of the right-wing media has been proclaiming that Sinema's GOP opponent McSally ended up losing to Sinema mainly because she wasn't Pro-Trump enough and she didn't go on enough "conservative" radio shows. But McSally voted with Trump at least 97% of the time, and she did go on Hannity's radio show. The voter turnout for Arizona's Senate race between Sinema and McSally ended up being very, very high. Link
McSally got more votes than Flake in his Senate win six years ago. But McSally ended up losing to Sinema due to Sinema getting most of the swing voters along with a surge of young voters going for her.

[_subgenius]

Arizona's GOP Governor here got re-elected mainly because he is more moderate and not as partisan as Governor Walker.

Part of the right-wing media has been proclaiming that Sinema's GOP opponent McSally ended up losing to Sinema because she wasn't Pro-Trump enough and she didn't go on enough "conservative" radio shows. But McSally voted with Trump at least 97% of the time, and she did go on Hannity's radio show. The voter turnout for Arizona's Senate race between Sinema and McSally ended up being very, very high. Link
McSally got more votes than Flake in his Senate win six years ago. But McSally ended up losing to Sinema due to Sinema getting most of the swing voters along with a surge of young voters going for her.

check that Arizona lawsuit, return and report.

[_honorentheos]

Arizona's GOP Governor here got re-elected mainly because he is more moderate and not as partisan as Governor Walker.

Part of the right-wing media has been proclaiming that Sinema's GOP opponent McSally ended up losing to Sinema because she wasn't Pro-Trump enough and she didn't go on enough "conservative" radio shows. But McSally voted with Trump at least 97% of the time, and she did go on Hannity's radio show. The voter turnout for Arizona's Senate race between Sinema and McSally ended up being very, very high. Link
McSally got more votes than Flake in his Senate win six years ago. But McSally ended up losing to Sinema due to Sinema getting most of the swing voters along with a surge of young voters going for her.

check that Arizona lawsuit, return and report.

I'm wondering if you have no idea about Arizona politics beyond an issue that was national news a month ago but resolved weeks ago before Sinema was confirmed as the winner? Or, out of charity, considering you might have a modicum of intellectual integrity and are making an out-of-left-field point about the suit involving McCain's seat that McSally would certainly be in contention to take if the suit were successful in forcing an election to fill it rather than it's current seat-warmer Jon Kyle keeping it safely Republican by Govenor appointment until 2020? I can't see it being the second because it wouldn't make sense in the context of the thread or your comment. So one is left wondering if you ought not to have taken your own advice first before posting.

The suit I'm assuming you are referencing because it attracted Trump's twitchy attention the week of the election alleged irregular treatment of mail-in ballots by county, and was resolved by ensuring all mail-in/drop-off ballots in the state were treated fairly so that those in Maricopa County weren't given special treatment. Everyone involved here in Arizona accepted it as a fair resolution to what I would agree was a legitimate problem but it was rectified and did not affect the election outcome.

McSally lost because she a) was an outsider to the most populous area of Arizona (Maricopa County and the Phoenix-Metro area) where over half of Arizona voters live while Sinema was a well-known political figure here, b) failed to effectively introduce herself to voters and give them a reason to vote FOR her, instead leaning almost entirely on negative ads aimed at influencing voters to not vote for Sinema, and c) she almost completely relied on her being Trump's surrogate including appearances together here in Arizona right before the election so the anti-Trump sentiment among new, younger urban voters couldn't be overcome by older Trump-loving voters in Maricopa County or rural voters in rural less populous counties where McSally won.

OTOH, Republican Governor Doug Ducey cruised to victory on the same ballot by maintaining his independence as a local Republican who would do what he thought was best for Arizonans rather than trying to be a National GOP surrogate. Republicans won state-wide office in Arizona. McSally hurt herself and paid the price by being too close to Trump rather than giving Arizonans a reason to think she was going to be their Senator. I suspect she'll approach her next attempt with that lesson learned.

[_canpakes]

Arizona's GOP Governor here got re-elected mainly because he is more moderate and not as partisan as Governor Walker.

Part of the right-wing media has been proclaiming that Sinema's GOP opponent McSally ended up losing to Sinema because she wasn't Pro-Trump enough and she didn't go on enough "conservative" radio shows. But McSally voted with Trump at least 97% of the time, and she did go on Hannity's radio show. The voter turnout for Arizona's Senate race between Sinema and McSally ended up being very, very high. Link
McSally got more votes than Flake in his Senate win six years ago. But McSally ended up losing to Sinema due to Sinema getting most of the swing voters along with a surge of young voters going for her.

check that Arizona lawsuit, return and report.

I'm wondering if you have no idea about Arizona politics beyond an issue that was national news a month ago but resolved weeks ago before Sinema was confirmed as the winner? Or, out of charity, considering you might have a modicum of intellectual integrity and are making an out-of-left-field point about the suit involving McCain's seat that McSally would certainly be in contention to take if the suit were successful in forcing an election to fill it rather than it's current seat-warmer Jon Kyle keeping it safely Republican by Govenor appointment until 2020? I can't see it being the second because it wouldn't make sense in the context of the thread or your comment. So one is left wondering if you ought not to have taken your own advice first before posting.

The suit I'm assuming you are referencing because it attracted Trump's twitchy attention the week of the election alleged irregular treatment of mail-in ballots by county, and was resolved by ensuring all mail-in/drop-off ballots in the state were treated fairly so that those in Maricopa County weren't given special treatment. Everyone involved here in Arizona accepted it as a fair resolution to what I would agree was a legitimate problem but it was rectified and did not affect the election outcome.

McSally lost because she a) was an outsider to the most populous area of Arizona (Maricopa County and the Phoenix-Metro area) where over half of Arizona voters live while Sinema was a well-known political figure here, b) failed to effectively introduce herself to voters and give them a reason to vote FOR her, instead leaning almost entirely on negative ads aimed at influencing voters to not vote for Sinema, and c) she almost completely relied on her being Trump's surrogate including appearances together here in Arizona right before the election so the anti-Trump sentiment among new, younger urban voters couldn't be overcome by older Trump-loving voters in Maricopa County or rural voters in rural less populous counties where McSally won.

OTOH, Republican Governor Doug Ducey cruised to victory on the same ballot by maintaining his independence as a local Republican who would do what he thought was best for Arizonans rather than trying to be a National GOP surrogate. Republicans won state-wide office in Arizona. McSally hurt herself and paid the price by being too close to Trump rather than giving Arizonans a reason to think she was going to be their Senator. I suspect she'll approach her next attempt with that lesson learned.

As a 25-year resident of that state (and having just moved out to another this year), I see this as an accurate analysis of the situation. Thanks, H.