Viva la France!

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Viva la France!

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Anyone interested in offering an opinion for the scale of and topic of protests being currently held by the yellow vest groups in France?

https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la ... story.html
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He who screams the loudest gets served first. He who doesn't scream and politely disagrees, gets shoved to the back of the line. It's human nature and the rich 1% do it too, just in different ways. Let's see what would happen if a new law were passed that actually limited business market share and busted up the monopolies. We would see the 1% up in arms, having a fit, and some politicians would probably lose their lives over it.
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Exiled wrote:He who screams the loudest gets served first. He who doesn't scream and politely disagrees, gets shoved to the back of the line. It's human nature and the rich 1% do it too, just in different ways. Let's see what would happen if a new law were passed that actually limited business market share and busted up the monopolies. We would see the 1% up in arms, having a fit, and some politicians would probably lose their lives over it.

The 1% can't really form a proper crowd/mob on the streets and likely wouldn't be able to overturn a car, let alone set it ablaze. But yeah, i get your sentiment about the squeaky wheel getting the grease - but that seems to be a dramatic oversimplification about what is happening in France. $6/gallon already for diesel and now adding over 0.30 more is a budget buster (something the 1% seldom personally experience)...but it is fun to watch how many news outlets talk about this tax in generic terms rather than being straight honest. Its a carbon tax to deter pollution in order to meet the Paris Agreement - I don't see any reason why it can be "reported" accurately, can you?
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subgenius wrote:Anyone interested in offering an opinion for the scale of and topic of protests being currently held by the yellow vest groups in France?

https://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la ... story.html


LDS Helping Hands volunteers are protesting?
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Re: Viva la France!

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subgenius wrote:
Exiled wrote:He who screams the loudest gets served first. He who doesn't scream and politely disagrees, gets shoved to the back of the line. It's human nature and the rich 1% do it too, just in different ways. Let's see what would happen if a new law were passed that actually limited business market share and busted up the monopolies. We would see the 1% up in arms, having a fit, and some politicians would probably lose their lives over it.

The 1% can't really form a proper crowd/mob on the streets and likely wouldn't be able to overturn a car, let alone set it ablaze. But yeah, i get your sentiment about the squeaky wheel getting the grease - but that seems to be a dramatic oversimplification about what is happening in France. $6/gallon already for diesel and now adding over 0.30 more is a budget buster (something the 1% seldom personally experience)...but it is fun to watch how many news outlets talk about this tax in generic terms rather than being straight honest. Its a carbon tax to deter pollution in order to meet the Paris Agreement - I don't see any reason why it can be "reported" accurately, can you?

The L.A. Times article had it about right in my opinion. There is much more to the protest than not being able to meet certain climate goals. Wages have stagnated and costs continue to rise. The extra tax, regardless of what it is for, is a budget buster for those lower on the economic scale and hence the protests.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-04/macron-suspends-gas-taxes-more-violent-yellow-vest-protests-loom
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If you want to write your title in the language of the country you are posting about, it would be a nice gesture to write it correctly.

France has enough problems at the moment as it is ...
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Chap wrote:If you want to write your title in the language of the country you are posting about, it would be a nice gesture to write it correctly.
...

a single letter gesture to all the French speakers reading it? (and what about our caravan readers?)... and since when does a post have to be linguistically aligned with the topic country?
Nevertheless, thanks for stopping by and contributing such a kind gesture for the people of France.
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subgenius wrote:Nevertheless, thanks for stopping by and contributing such a kind gesture for the people of France.

It was more for you.

Typical American tourist. ; )
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subgenius wrote:
Chap wrote:If you want to write your title in the language of the country you are posting about, it would be a nice gesture to write it correctly.
...

a single letter gesture to all the French speakers reading it? (and what about our caravan readers?)... and since when does a post have to be linguistically aligned with the topic country?
Nevertheless, thanks for stopping by and contributing such a kind gesture for the people of France.


Nope. I was trying, and evidently failing, to make you look a little less ignorant. But who I am to struggle against your chosen identity?
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