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DoubtingThomas wrote:
honorentheos wrote:Uh, yeah. subbie's comment is bananas.


I agree, but so is the investigation of an award handshake.

as was the investigation of an imaginary supreme court nominee rape gang, so what's your point.
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subgenius wrote:as was the investigation of an imaginary supreme court nominee rape gang, so what's your point.


You are not making any sense. A rape accusation is far more serious.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
subgenius wrote:as was the investigation of an imaginary supreme court nominee rape gang, so what's your point.


You are not making any sense. A rape accusation is far more serious.


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subgenius wrote:Image

Subgenius, are you allowed to show the sacred handshakes on this forum, especially the Sure Sign of a Pulse?
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subgenius wrote:.A rape conviction isn't a death sentence nor is it a life in prison sentence...meaning "the debt" is paid to society after the rapist serves the time...


You do well to put those words in quotes. In fact the popular concept of a 'debt' to be paid to society is not a concept that forms part of any common-law jurisdiction.

In societies governed by law, a specific scale of punishments is laid down for specific crimes. Once you have been sentenced, and served the time or paid the fine, the law will not inflict a further fine or custodial punishment on you for the same offence.

But thereafter society is under no obligation to treat you the same way or to regard you in the same light as it did before you committed the rape for which you were punished.

As a matter of public policy, society usually finds it better all round to try to rehabilitate criminals so far as work opportunities are concerned, and that rehabilitation may include regaining the right to vote, but there will always be limits: thus, no time-served rapist is likely to get a job in a home for girls in need of social care. And no father is obligated to let his teenage daughter date a convicted rapist, even if she pleads that 'Daddy, he has paid his debt to society." That's just baloney.
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Chap wrote:...And no father is obligated to let his teenage daughter date...

This is kinda the point ain't it?...but your conflation of private life with public life is entertaining but irrelevant, unreasonable, and illogical in this context. To the public, an unconditionally released prisoner is entitled to the same rights and pursuits as any other non-convicted person. . . Amendment 4 in Florida was intended to fight against the very disenfranchisement that you are encouraging/promoting in your post.

By your logic we should not let felons vote because they will eventually vote to make their criminal behavior legal...why would we let a law-breaker near our laws?

Thanks for the bigotry Chap, its nice to witness how concepts like clemency and self-actualization come up for air only to have the big fluffy pillow of the Left pressed firmly onto their faces.
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subgenius wrote:By your logic we should ...


Which, being interpreted, means "Oh dear. Nothing in Chap's post I can rebut. Better put some words into his mouth, and then attack those!"
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