ajax18 wrote:The far right had always been Trump's guns. The far right is who elected DJT, not Brackite, paul Ryan or Mitt Romney, and he's being true to his promises.
Trump needed a lot more help then from the far right. He even needed the Russians to win, as well as a last minute suggestion Hillary was being investigated again by the FBI. I think If Mitt had been the candidate against Hillary he would have easily won.
ajax18 wrote:The far right had always been Trump's guns. The far right is who elected DJT, not Brackite, paul Ryan or Mitt Romney, and he's being true to his promises.
Trump needed a lot more help then from the far right. He even needed the Russians to win, as well as a last minute suggestion Hillary was being investigated again by the FBI. I think If Mitt had been the candidate against Hillary he would have easily won.
Russia literally had no meaningful influence on the 2016 President election - a.k.a. the election results would have been the same without Facebook. But yeah, a mossy log would have won against Hillary Clinton.
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subgenius wrote:Russia literally had no meaningful influence on the 2016 President election - a.k.a. the election results would have been the same without Facebook. But yeah, a mossy log would have won against Hillary Clinton.
I like how this post demonstrates exactly why Russia ‘wastes its time’ on something that supposedly has no effect on anyone. Thank you for being our example of what you deny the existence of.
ajax18 wrote:The far right had always been Trump's guns. The far right is who elected DJT, not Brackite, paul Ryan or Mitt Romney, and he's being true to his promises.
Since Ajax mentioned me in this post of his, I better then respond to it.
The three states that delivered the Presidency for Trump were Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Trump ended up winning all three of these three states by less than one percentage point. It was moderate Democrats in Erie County, PA and moderate Democrats in Macomb County, MI who were key in delivering the Presidency to Trump. While Trump won both of these counties in the 2016 election, both of these counties recently were won by the Democratic Senators of Pennsylvania and Michigan in their reelection bids.
And it is a bit ironic that Ajax mentioned Paul Ryan not electing DJT to the Presidency. Paul Ryan ended up voting for Trump in Wisconsin, which was one of the three states that delivered the Presidency to Trump.
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"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
He promised that Mexico, not the American taxpayer, would pay for the wall. Now he's saying the American taxpayer has to pay, and if he doesn't get his way he will shut down the government meaning tens of thousands of Americans go without getting paid, like 40,000 cost guard servicemen.
All we need is for Congress to allow us to build it. We'll make the initial investment ourselves with a simple GoFundMe page. We can worry about recouping the money from Latin America later.
Now that Trump has governed as someone who is as hostile to entitlements as they come in a complete 180 of his campaign stance,
I don't think his base will mind that either.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote:All we need is for Congress to allow us to build it.
Whose land are you going to build it on?
We can worry about recouping the money from Latin America later.
That doesn't sound ominous or anything.
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I don't think his base will mind that either.
Part of his "base" are people who very much want expanded, not reduced access to publicly funded health care and protection of social entitlements. That's plain as day in the polling and unquestionably was part of his appeal as a primary candidate. This is you assuming that whatever you personally want constitutes Trump's "base." Then you have the audacity to assume that's what got Trump elected. Did you vote 60 million times Ajax?
ajax18 wrote:The far right had always been Trump's guns. The far right is who elected DJT, not Brackite, paul Ryan or Mitt Romney, and he's being true to his promises.
Since Ajax mentioned me in this post of his, I better then respond to it.
The three states that delivered the Presidency for Trump were Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Trump ended up winning all three of these three states by less than one percentage point. It was moderate Democrats in Erie County, PA and moderate Democrats in Macomb County, MI who were key in delivering the Presidency to Trump. While Trump won both of these counties in the 2016 election, both of these counties recently were won by the Democratic Senators of Pennsylvania and Michigan in their reelection bids.
And it is a bit ironic that Ajax mentioned Paul Ryan not electing DJT to the Presidency. Paul Ryan ended up voting for Trump in Wisconsin, which was one of the three states that delivered the Presidency to Trump.
The election was so close that dozens of factors can correctly be described as decisive. If Jill Stein wasn't out there gifting leftwing voters, Clinton probably wins too. The election was within the range that weather patterns are known to affect the outcome of elections.
Trump did well for a Republican in the Midwest mostly because he picked off even more of the white working class than previous Republicans did. Part of that is because that group has been shifting Republican year over year anyway and part of that is that people with high racial resentment, but Democratic voting history switched over in meaningful numbers and this wasn't offset by Clinton's mirrored gains among well-educated whites. This is a marginal difference and could easily be reversed, but that's why it's important to understand that even small movement is decisive when an election is that close.
Black people also stayed home to vote relative to 2008 and 2012 in those states. Part of that is because Barack Obama wasn't on the ticket and part of that is because Republicans made it harder for black people to vote in those states.
ajax18 wrote:All we need is for Congress to allow us to build it. We'll make the initial investment ourselves with a simple GoFundMe page. We can worry about recouping the money from Latin America later.
I think you need to worry about more than Congress. You need to talk to a whole mess of home and land owners who don’t want to surrender their property for a giant, ugly wall.
You seem pretty gung-ho about tossing both property rights and fiscal responsibility over an ineffective barrier.
ajax18 wrote:All we need is for Congress to allow us to build it. We'll make the initial investment ourselves with a simple GoFundMe page. We can worry about recouping the money from Latin America later.
I think you need to worry about more than Congress. You need to talk to a whole mess of home and land owners who don’t want to surrender their property for a giant, ugly wall.
You seem pretty gung-ho about tossing both property rights and fiscal responsibility over an ineffective barrier.
They've already raised 18 million canpakes. That's only 99%+ short of the billions and billions needed to build a true border wall and maintain it. So, almost there baby. That proves they're gonna do it.
With as realistic as this fantasy is, I think we can safely assume team Wallbuilder is also securing lands along the border via donations from property holders. Problem solved.
They do recognize it as a problem and I know you know that is what they say, but the problem is you are so dishonest you think everyone else is as well.
Well why doesn't Kevin speak for himself. Kevin Graham, do we have an illegal immigration problem in the USA?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.