Trump's Beautiful Wall

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_Kevin Graham
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Re: Trump's Beautiful Wall

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subgenius wrote:
Maksutov wrote:The wall is a symbol--as well as a reality--affirming segregation. :eek:

So, what was the 700 miles of fence that Obama built a symbol/reality of?


Uh, a border?

Secure Fence Act of 2006 was Obama's doing?
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Uh, a border?

Secure Fence Act of 2006 was Obama's doing?

No not at all...but for him to allow such a blatant act of racism during is tenure is puzzling...its...its....its like its not a racist act at all.

but when you say "border"...what do you mean by that?
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From Drumpf's own website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409010 ... r-the-wall

COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion


Not that the truth matters to any of his supporters....

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:From Drumpf's own website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409010 ... r-the-wall

COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion


Not that the truth matters to any of his supporters....

- Doc


https://www.engineering.com/BIM/Article ... NF32z_ZqzQ


A recent report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office(GAO) documents how the Department of Homeland Security(DHS) tested its eight border barrier prototypes for the U.S.-Mexican border. The report found that many of the prototypes are “extensively” or “substantially” flawed, and that Customs and Border Protection(CBP) has likely underestimated the actual cost of the project.

Between October 2017 and June 2018, the GAO audited the DHS’s efforts, including how it evaluated the prototypes, how they determined location for new barriers, and how the department is managing acquisitions for the project. To do this, the GAO talked to officials and engineers, reviewed paperwork, and observed the DHS as it tested the prototypes.

For fans of the wall, the news is not good. The question now is: how did this happen?


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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:From Drumpf's own website:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160409010 ... r-the-wall

COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion


Not that the truth matters to any of his supporters....

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Re: Trump's Beautiful Wall

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Hey Doc!
I am sure you have already heard about Jim Acosta taking his degrees and credentials for journalism down to the border and reporting how things appear to be safe sound....at the wall.

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"No sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about. As a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here." - Acosta noticing conditions next to a big wall
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subgenius wrote:Hey Doc!
I am sure you have already heard about Jim Acosta taking his degrees and credentials for journalism down to the border and reporting how things appear to be safe sound....at the wall.

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"No sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about. As a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here." - Acosta noticing conditions next to a big wall


Those types of steel fences are even easier for groups of people to breach than a 50 ft concrete wall. They're both ineffective and a waste of money.

The only people a border wall may hinder are women and children trying to go it alone.
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Kevin Graham wrote:The only people a border wall may hinder are women and children trying to go it alone.

True; very young children will first need to detach if breastfeeding, to allow mom to better scale the wall.
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Anyway, now it looks as if Trump's lawyers have managed to explain to him that a state of emergency

(a) Won't solve his problem.
(b) Is really not a good thing in any case

Trump: 'Not looking to do' national emergency

Donald Trump said on Friday that he does not plan to declare a national emergency – a day after suggesting he would “probably” do so.

Speaking at a cabinet meeting over the government shutdown and the border wall, Trump said: “What we’re not looking to do right now is national emergency.”

The president instead urged Democrats to “come back and vote” in Congress in a bid to end the government shutdown.

Trump insisted he had the right to declare an emergency, but said: “I’m not going to do it so fast”, according to a White House pool reporter.

That’s quite a turnaround from Trump.

On Thursday Trump was said to be consulting with lawyers over declaring a national emergency to appropriate money for the border wall – which would allow him to bypass Democrats in Congress.

He claimed his lawyers had told him such a declaration would hold up to legal scrutiny “100%”.

“I have the absolute right to declare a national emergency,” Trump said on Thursday.

“I haven’t done it yet, I may do it. If this doesn’t work out, probably I will do it. I would almost say definitely.”

Now Trump is urging Democrats to “come back and vote” – rather than attempting to go round them.

“We want Congress to do its job,” Trump said on Friday.

Despite Trump’s assertions that he would be able to declare an emergency, legal scholars have questioned the president’s right to take such action. That legal ambiguity could have contributed to this about turn from Trump.

More news is coming out re Trump’s national emergency reversal. According to numerous reporters Trump said this at his cabinet meeting today:

“This is where I ask the Democrats to come back to Washington and vote for money for the wall, the barrier. I don’t care what they name it. They can name it peaches.”

Trump will likely be embarrassed about ending his very public pursuit of a national emergency.

But spare a thought for Lindsey Graham, Trump foe-turned-Trump-sycophant, who was faithfully tagging along with the president’s national emergency line as recently as... two hours ago.


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Mr. President,

Declare a national emergency NOW.

Build a wall NOW.


It’s extra embarrassing for Graham given he had been skeptical earlier this week about whether an emergency declaration would work, before shifting behind the idea. Oops

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