"National Emergency" it is!

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Trump's minions controlled both houses of congress and the Supreme Court during his first 2 years in office. Why didn't he build a wall then? Now that Democrats control the house it's suddenly an emergency. It's only a national emergency because he's a procrastinator.
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Apparently, it’s a national emergency that Trump has no negotiation skills. : D
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"I want to do it faster. I could do the wall over a longer period of time," President Trump said in an announcement Friday for his national emergency that freed up funds for the border wall. "I didn't need to do this."


How is this an emergency when Trump has countermanded his own statements on the issue? This is just a money grab.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
"I want to do it faster. I could do the wall over a longer period of time," President Trump said in an announcement Friday for his national emergency that freed up funds for the border wall. "I didn't need to do this."


How is this an emergency when Trump has countermanded his own statements on the issue? This is just a money grab.

- Doc


Saving face with his base at our expense. :razz:

Where's that check from Mexico?
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Image just released of Trump's nominee to head up the National Emergency response. In a statement, the President described his nominee as "Really terrific, a great guy. Lots of people saying good things."

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DarkHelmet wrote:Trump's minions controlled both houses of congress and the Supreme Court during his first 2 years in office. Why didn't he build a wall then? Now that Democrats control the house it's suddenly an emergency. It's only a national emergency because he's a procrastinator.


He couldn’t have. There weren’t 60 votes in the Senate.
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/14/politics ... index.html

Trump once called executive action on immigration dangerous, unconstitutional and impeachable

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The comments from Trump echo a tweet he sent, also from November 2014, in which he wrote, "Repubs must not allow Pres Obama to subvert the Constitution of the US for his own benefit & because he is unable to negotiate w/ Congress."


Not that anything Trump says, ever, can EVER cause his supporters to reevaluate their position because, in their minds, any Democrat, and I mean ANY Democrat is worse, far worse, than having Trump in the Presidency.

So. Here we are. This'll be fun when a Democratic President uses their Executive powers to ban guns based on a 'national emergency'. Precedence is going to be a bitch.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Not that anything Trump says, ever, can EVER cause his supporters to reevaluate their position because, in their minds, any Democrat, and I mean ANY Democrat is worse, far worse, than having Trump in the Presidency.



Just giving you an "on the ground" report here based on in real life conversations with certain Trump supporters. What you say about is entirely true. I've lost count of how many times an issue has been raised, an attempt to discuss and the first words out of their mouths are "The Democrats" or "Obama".

So. Here we are. This'll be fun when a Democratic President uses their Executive powers to ban guns based on a 'national emergency'. Precedence is going to be a bitch.

- Doc


I don't know about anywhere else but all hell will break loose around here. Guaranteed.

From where I sit, the biggest mistake that Trump supporters around me are making is that they believe Trump is like them to the point where they've shut down their ability to reasonably and rationally evaluate the guy they hired.

Hero of the masses or something. “F” him.
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Well, the other challenge for Trump supporters is their complete and utter lack of comprehension skills. Take Markk, for example. He just goes on repeater mode about 'where's the proof'. You can baby step him through the equation like so:

Russian operative -> Trump Campaign Manager -> Trump

And he just has a mental break. You can show them (trumpists) testimony that Trump or his kid or his Son-in-Law or his lawyer or his director or his business associate did *insert illegal activity* and it's either 'where's the proof' or this is fake or this is a witch hunt or who cares.

They're utterly immoral. All of them. I never thought I'd see the day where our government, from the electorate to DC is just thoroughly compromised in every sense of the word. Hopefully the DoJ can save us from ourselves.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
I don't know about anywhere else but all hell will break loose around here.


How will his desire to build border barriers adversely affect your life or any of those complaining about his desire to do so?

I understand that actually “thinking through your emotions and your response” before posting it is not the norm for you here but ...... what will be the negative affect in your life?

And if you would dare enter into an intellectual conversation on this very question/issue, I will commmit to answer any questions of me, or explain why it will be a great advantage to any working Americans or those who just want to receive government benefits!

Are you confident in your conclusions/opinions? If so, why not engage? Or does my offer of open and public discussion intimidate you.

[Shades, if EA won’t allow this post to go through can I ask you to explain?]
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