Kamala blasts Pence for refusing to meet women alone

[_Res Ipsa]

I mean, Mike Pence is the guy who "injected" gender into the issue, but I'm a threat to America because I talked about gender.

I was wondering who was going to pick up on that. : )

Thank you.

This is part and parcel of the right's Orwellian framing of certain issues:

The only racism in America is the left talking about race.
The only sexism in America is the left talking about sex.
The only class warfare in America is the left talking about class warfare.

So, if black folks are actually being discriminated against in some harmful way, that's okay. What's not okay is talking about it.
If wealth is being redistributed from the middle class to the uber wealthy, that's okay. What's not okay is talking about it.
If women are being paid less than men for comparable work, that's okay. What's not okay is talking about it.



It's a cynical attempt to shut down discussion of issues by labeling the discussion as bigoted. (I'm not suggesting Ceeboo is being cynical, but he's adopted the rhetoric of those who are).

[_Ceeboo]

RI

We need not agree - we have made our positions clear. For me, that's good enough.

in my opinion, your injection of the race, gender and religious beliefs of Pence (and me for that matter) to the discussion says it all. It should be completely irrelevant.

Of course it's good enough for you launch a barrage of insults and personal attacks and then run away.

I'm not running. I made my position clear. You need not like it or agree with it but it is indeed my position and I own it.

The fact that in the context of this issue, you are willfully shutting your eyes to everyone except the guy who looks and believes as you is completely relevant.

BS! I would have the exact same position if this was about Denzel Washington or Charles Darwin.

You are considering the interests of the guy who happens to be in your tribe and not those who are not.

BS!

That you keep trying to twist that into an attack on your religion is disgusting.

This isn't about an attack "on my religion." I don't care about people attacking "my religion", good lord, I am posting on a discussion board that "attacks my religion" hundreds of times a week. This is about YOU bringing Pence's religion (and mine) into the discussion - as if that should have any relevance to the discussion. It shouldn't and it doesn't. (Nor does the color of his skin)

You certainly can make the "private choice" to lob grenades and run. You have that right. But I have every right to criticize your actions as cowardly.

Yeah - as you can see the coward is running. Lol

[_Ceeboo]

So, if black folks are actually being discriminated against in some harmful way, that's okay. What's not okay is talking about it.

I'm beginning to not take you seriously.

The White, Male, Evangelical Christian Coward.

[_Some Schmo]

The White, Male, Evangelical Christian Coward.

Wow... actual self-awareness! How 'bout that?

(some of it was redundant, but it's a start)

[_schreech]

Your total lack of any kind of self awareness is staggeringly unsurprising. An old, white, conservative christian, Trump supporting male who is incapable of seeing the double standards in his inflexible "belief" system who seems impervious to any kind of thoughtful reevaluation based on real data, truth or critical thinking - shocking how easily you fit into and blindly adopt the habits of a particular group all while bitching about being lumped into a particular group . Maybe try being original in any way and, honestly, a little bit of self assessment would go a long way just to show some ability to think independently but that is not even your worst quality...

...Even worse than the fact that you regularly reference prager U (you know, the site that is the go to for old, white, conservative christian, Trump supporting males and is also the site that was written up as "one of the most effective propaganda tools at the disposal of the American far-right https://clearcutpolitics.net/home/2019/2/10/modern-propaganda-prageru" - I, of course, don't expect that you would read that article and actually consider it and reevaluate your blind devotion to Prager U) - is your need to refer to yourself in the 3rd person. Dude, I can't think of anything that screams "I deserve as much attention as you would give the sidewalk nutter screaming about govt mind control chemicals in the water" than referring to yourself, in the 3rd person, by a made up screen name. I can forgive you for being a tool who doesn't seem to be capable of thinking outside the sad little bubble you have created for yourself, a lifetime of conditioning seems to have stunted your ability to change or move beyond conservative group think but, dude, the 3rd person affectation deserves no forgiveness....

[_Ceeboo]

Your total lack of any kind of self awareness is staggeringly unsurprising. An old, white, conservative christian, Trump supporting male

shocking how easily you fit into and blindly adopt the habits of a particular group

a little bit of self assessment would go a long way just to show some ability to think independently but that is not even your worst quality...

I can forgive you for being a tool who doesn't seem to be capable of thinking outside the sad little bubble you have created for yourself

the 3rd person affectation deserves no forgiveness....

lol

[_Jersey Girl]

I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete crap show.

There was a topic here. Thanks for destroying “F” out of it you guys.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just want it noted that EA can't:

1) Produce a direct quote from Pence on the "Pence Policy" as it's being framed.

2) Produce anyone who has been adversely affected by the so-called Pence Policy, other than the massive self-inflicted butthurt Liberals are undergoing.

3) Produce any real-world evidence the Pence Policy, attributed to Pence, has been implemented officially in some organization and has caused direct harm to a woman's career.

4) Admit he was wrong on two points:

4a) That the Pence Policy doesn't exist.

4b) Kamala Harris did, in fact, “F” her superior.

What I find additionally interesting in this weird dive into the fevered Leftist imagination is they're seemingly ok with Kamala Harris damned her superior and receiving quid pro quo benefits which run contrary to Patriarchal Power narratives, #metoo narratives, and their disgust for Republicans who “F” up or down in their own power structure.

Instead, what we get is an all out attack on a presumably moral man, a faithful husband, and a far better example for others than whatever the “F” thunderdump Trump is and dozens of other current and past politicians on both sides of the aisle. I'd bet you dime to dollar if Pence were a Muslim, and a Democrat, we wouldn't be hearing crap on this matter, but, because he's a Christian and Republican, and occupies a high position on the cultural power hierarchy, as it were, I guess he's fair game for lies, innuendo, and bigotry.

- Doc

[_schreech]

I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete ____ show.

There was a topic here. Thanks for destroying ____ out of it you guys.

Some threads just deserve to be put out of their misery. The participation of certain posters seems to accelerate that process. I tend to enjoy mocking those types of people and I have some time to kill before my next flight, soooo.....

[_canpakes]

I don't mind the occasional insult on a thread but this one's turned into a complete crap show.

There was a topic here. Thanks for destroying “F” out of it you guys.