Kirstjen Nielsen resigning as head of DHS

[_MeDotOrg]

Early word was a meeting between Nielsen and Trump was scheduled after the border visit this week, and that the meeting did not go well. Nielsen did not go into the meeting expecting to resign.

Check out the ultimate perfunctory 'buh-bye' tweet:



Trump has also withdrawn his original nominee to head ICE, saying he wants to go in 'tougher' direction.

I think you have to be a bit of a masochist to actually want to work for this man.

[_EAllusion]

She should immediately be tried for crimes against humanity, but probably will - I don't know - get a teaching job at Harvard or something. Fun how military power obscures history's villains that way.

[_SPG]

She should immediately be tried for crimes against humanity, but probably will - I don't know - get a teaching job at Harvard or something. Fun how military power obscures history's villains that way.

What crimes?

[_Kevin Graham]

Kirstjen Nielsen was Trump's DHS Secretary, where she oversaw the performatively cruel practice of separating thousands of children from their parents, in a calculatedly shambolic and chaotic way, ensuring that many of them will never be reunited with their families.

Nielsen covered up this practice by repeatedly lying about it, delaying public action.

Now, Nielsen has resigned her position, and it's likely that she will be recruited to a think tank, university center, or similar institution. These seem to have a bottomless appetite for welcoming in war criminals and liars who serve under Trump: remember when pathological liar and buffoon Sean Spicer was given a prestigious appointment at Harvard and then deferred to when he insisted that Chelsea Manning's similar appointment be revoked?

Henry Farrell (previously) has created a public pledge: "If Kirstjen Nielsen gets a position at a think-tank, university center or similar, I will not participate on any panel that involves anyone from that think-tank, center or other institution. I will not participate in any event where the institution plays an organizing role, nor will I associate myself in any way that might reasonably be seen as providing active support for that institution."

I've signed it.

Actions have consequences. People who commit crimes against humanity should be shunned and excluded from polite society.

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/08/kancel-kirstjen.html

[_SPG]

Kirstjen Nielsen was Trump's DHS Secretary, where she oversaw the performatively cruel practice of separating thousands of children from their parents, in a calculatedly shambolic and chaotic way, ensuring that many of them will never be reunited with their families.

Nielsen covered up this practice by repeatedly lying about it, delaying public action.

Now, Nielsen has resigned her position, and it's likely that she will be recruited to a think tank, university center, or similar institution. These seem to have a bottomless appetite for welcoming in war criminals and liars who serve under Trump: remember when pathological liar and buffoon Sean Spicer was given a prestigious appointment at Harvard and then deferred to when he insisted that Chelsea Manning's similar appointment be revoked?

Henry Farrell (previously) has created a public pledge: "If Kirstjen Nielsen gets a position at a think-tank, university center or similar, I will not participate on any panel that involves anyone from that think-tank, center or other institution. I will not participate in any event where the institution plays an organizing role, nor will I associate myself in any way that might reasonably be seen as providing active support for that institution."

I've signed it.

Actions have consequences. People who commit crimes against humanity should be shunned and excluded from polite society.

https://boingboing.net/2019/04/08/kancel-kirstjen.html

This article seems bias.

[_EAllusion]

This article seems bias.

It does take the stand that separating children from their parents and putting them in interment camps then lying to the public about it is bad, yes.

[_SPG]

This article seems bias.

It does take the stand that separating children from their parents and putting them in interment camps then lying to the public about it is bad, yes.

Yeah, but there was a lot of inflammatory reporting that skipped over the facts.

But feel free to address these issues. . . .

1. Kids often not biologically related to people claiming to be parents. Children were being kidnapped to use as ticket into the US. Simply allowing parents with kids through was creating a humanitarian crisis.
2. Some children were being sex or slave trafficked. Not separating them from the "parents" exposed them to abuse.
3. One year, Obama had processed more then 80,000 kids. The images of kids in cages came that time.
4. If an American parent tried to slipped of the Mexico border in an illegal manner, they would be arrested and separated from their kids.
5. Most "kids" (like about 80%) were older kids and came alone. Many kids aren't kids at all, but in their late teens and many pretending to be kids. Like one illegal charged with rape in a high school was about 23 years old.
6. All "real" parents had the option to take their kids and go home. We don't kick children out, so when the parents were sent back, their parents CHOSE to leave their kids. We are then tasks with tracking down relatives in the US or find their family back in their country.
7. These are not normal American "towns." These are refugees and we are tasks not only with their care, but their education. Keeping them safe is a major deal, because they might even hurt themselves or each other.
8. Just because reporter says there was a lie, doesn't mean there is. I found the reports fairly complete.