The Redacted Mueller Report

[_huckelberry]

Subgenius, are you still mad about getting that speeding ticket while motor boating on the canals of Mars?

[_moksha]

Subgenius, are you still mad about getting that speeding ticket while motor boating on the canals of Mars?

Can you blame him for getting mad? It was issued by a green Martian.
Sometimes you just gotta smile and grok with it.

[_Some Schmo]

This is just your way of down playing the waves of hateful hostility that Democrats have thrown at our elected president. As if a 2 year investigation wasn't a promise of conviction to the Democrats. They wanted to indicted, accused him of being a chicken for not sitting for a questioning from the FBI.

The media and academics have published that they know he is guilty of crimes. But you are right, you cannot indict a president. And now that they have nothing, they want to pretend that they weren't screaming "impeachment."

So pick on my language, it doesn't hide want you would have done to our elected leader.

Part of why Trump supporters are idiots is that they think everyone who recognizes Trump for the asshole and crook he is must be a Democrat, a liberal, or "radical leftist." “F”, that's stupid.

I'm not any of those things. I'm a human being who knows a damned asshole when I see one. Trump is an asshole. That you like him says everything we need to know about you.

Now “F” off, Russian stooge.

[_SPG]

Part of why Trump supporters are idiots is that they think everyone who recognizes Trump for the asshole and crook he is must be a Democrat, a liberal, or "radical leftist." ____, that's stupid.

I'm not any of those things. I'm a human being who knows a ____ asshole when I see one. Trump is an asshole. That you like him says everything we need to know about you.

Now ____ off, Russian stooge.

I'm not going to say this tells me everything about you, but wow, it says a lot. Like, what you just assumed about me. I didn't call you names, except to point out hateful behavior. (I do tend to group Trump haters as Democrats.)

I see the asshole in Trump, but that asshole works for me. He is doing the hard stuff that the last 4 presidents promised.

But, I get it if you don't talk to me.

[_Some Schmo]

I'm not going to say this tells me everything about you, but wow, it says a lot. Like, what you just assumed about me. I didn't call you names, except to point out hateful behavior. (I do tend to group Trump haters as Democrats.)

Any time someone criticizes Trump, they are pointing out hateful behavior. Trump inspires hateful behavior. He give it out, he gets it back. This isn't rocket science. You act like it's a mystery why so many people hate Trump. You're either daft or an asshole yourself.

I see the asshole in Trump, but that asshole works for me. He is doing the hard stuff that the last 4 presidents promised.

Right. So you're another damned sellout who puts party before country (unless you're a Putin Russian). Thanks for admitting it.

You've sold out to the most obvious conman we've ever seen. You're a willing rube. The past 4 presidents didn't do what you wanted because they weren't abject assholes willing to take advantage of morons.

[_Maksutov]

I'm not going to say this tells me everything about you, but wow, it says a lot. Like, what you just assumed about me. I didn't call you names, except to point out hateful behavior. (I do tend to group Trump haters as Democrats.)

Any time someone criticizes Trump, they are pointing out hateful behavior. Trump inspires hateful behavior. He give it out, he gets it back. This isn't rocket science. You act like it's a mystery why so many people hate Trump. You're either daft or an asshole yourself.

I see the asshole in Trump, but that asshole works for me. He is doing the hard stuff that the last 4 presidents promised.

Right. So you're another ____ sellout who puts party before country (unless you're a Putin Russian). Thanks for admitting it.

You've sold out to the most obvious conman we've ever seen. You're a willing rube. The past 4 presidents didn't do what you wanted because they weren't abject assholes willing to take advantage of morons.

They were under Constitutional constraints. Not willing to play tyrant and dictator the way that Trump does.

[_ajax18]

The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.

The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".

Why did Obama go soft on Russia? My opinion is that it was because he was singularly focused on the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama wanted Putin in the deal, and to stand up to him on election interference would have, in Obama's estimation, upset that negotiation. This turned out to be a disastrous policy decision.


Obama's supporters claim he did stand up to Russia by deploying sanctions after the election to punish them for their actions. But, Obama, according to the Washington Post, "approved a modest package... with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic." In other words, a toothless response to a serious incursion.

But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed. Congressman Adam Schiff, who disgraced himself in this process by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, once said that "the Obama administration should have done a lot more." The Washington Post reported that a senior Obama administration official said they "sort of choked" in failing to stop the Russian government's brazen activities. And Obama's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, said, "The punishment did not fit the crime" about the weak sanctions rolled out after the 2016 election.

A legitimate question Republicans are asking is whether the potential "collusion" narrative was invented to cover up the Obama administration's failures. Two years have been spent fomenting the idea that Russia only interfered because it had a willing, colluding partner: Trump. Now that Mueller has popped that balloon, we must ask why this collusion narrative was invented in the first place.

Given Obama's record on Russia, one operating theory is that his people needed a smokescreen to obscure just how wrong they were. They've blamed Trump. They've even blamed Mitch McConnell, in some twisted attempt to deflect blame to another branch of government. Joe Biden once claimed McConnell refused to sign a letter condemning the Russians during the 2016 election. But McConnell's office counters that the White House asked him to sign a letter urging state electors to accept federal help in securing local elections -- and he did. You can read it here.

I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too.

But the Mueller report makes it clear that the Russian interference failure was Obama's alone. He was the commander-in-chief when all of this happened. In 2010, he and Eric Holder, his Attorney General, declined to prosecute Julian Assange, who then went on to help Russia hack the Democratic National Committee's emails in 2016. He arguably chose to prioritize his relationship with Putin vis-à-vis Iran over pushing back against Russian election interference that had been going on for at least two years.

If you consider Russian election interference a crisis for our democracy, then you cannot read the Mueller report, adding it to the available public evidence, and conclude anything other than Barack Obama spectacularly failed America. Subsequent investigations of this matter should explore how and why Obama's White House failed, and whether they invented the collusion narrative to cover up those failures.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/opinions ... SM82ouA7T4

Hard to believe this was a CNN opinion piece.

[_Maksutov]

It's a fantasy posted by a Republican Congressman. Of course he doesn't mention Trump defending Putin against our own intelligence agencies.

[_subgenius]

It's a fantasy posted by a Republican Congressman. Of course he doesn't mention Trump defending Putin against our own intelligence agencies.

or mention of Obama ignoring Russia...maybe Trump is just "waiting until after the election ", ya know? then he will have more "flexibility "
amiright?

[_Kevin Graham]

The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.

The Mueller report flatly states that Russia began interfering in American democracy in 2014. Over the next couple of years, the effort blossomed into a robust attempt to interfere in our 2016 presidential election. The Obama administration knew this was going on and yet did nothing. In 2016, Obama's National Security Adviser Susan Rice told her staff to "stand down" and "knock it off" as they drew up plans to "strike back" against the Russians, according to an account from Michael Isikoff and David Corn in their book "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump".

Why did Obama go soft on Russia? My opinion is that it was because he was singularly focused on the nuclear deal with Iran. Obama wanted Putin in the deal, and to stand up to him on election interference would have, in Obama's estimation, upset that negotiation. This turned out to be a disastrous policy decision.


Obama's supporters claim he did stand up to Russia by deploying sanctions after the election to punish them for their actions. But, Obama, according to the Washington Post, "approved a modest package... with economic sanctions so narrowly targeted that even those who helped design them describe their impact as largely symbolic." In other words, a toothless response to a serious incursion.

But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed. Congressman Adam Schiff, who disgraced himself in this process by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, once said that "the Obama administration should have done a lot more." The Washington Post reported that a senior Obama administration official said they "sort of choked" in failing to stop the Russian government's brazen activities. And Obama's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, said, "The punishment did not fit the crime" about the weak sanctions rolled out after the 2016 election.

A legitimate question Republicans are asking is whether the potential "collusion" narrative was invented to cover up the Obama administration's failures. Two years have been spent fomenting the idea that Russia only interfered because it had a willing, colluding partner: Trump. Now that Mueller has popped that balloon, we must ask why this collusion narrative was invented in the first place.

Given Obama's record on Russia, one operating theory is that his people needed a smokescreen to obscure just how wrong they were. They've blamed Trump. They've even blamed Mitch McConnell, in some twisted attempt to deflect blame to another branch of government. Joe Biden once claimed McConnell refused to sign a letter condemning the Russians during the 2016 election. But McConnell's office counters that the White House asked him to sign a letter urging state electors to accept federal help in securing local elections -- and he did. You can read it here.

I guess if I had failed to stop Russia from marching into Crimea, making a mess in Syria, and hacking our democracy I'd be looking to blame someone else, too.

But the Mueller report makes it clear that the Russian interference failure was Obama's alone. He was the commander-in-chief when all of this happened. In 2010, he and Eric Holder, his Attorney General, declined to prosecute Julian Assange, who then went on to help Russia hack the Democratic National Committee's emails in 2016. He arguably chose to prioritize his relationship with Putin vis-à-vis Iran over pushing back against Russian election interference that had been going on for at least two years.

If you consider Russian election interference a crisis for our democracy, then you cannot read the Mueller report, adding it to the available public evidence, and conclude anything other than Barack Obama spectacularly failed America. Subsequent investigations of this matter should explore how and why Obama's White House failed, and whether they invented the collusion narrative to cover up those failures.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/19/opinions ... SM82ouA7T4

Hard to believe this was a CNN opinion piece.

I read that. But always consider the source. Scott Jennings is a former campaign adviser to Sen. Mitch McConnell. CNN likes to let these guys post their opinions so it makes them appear objective. It blows my mind how anyone can process the string of events that have happened over the past two years and the first thing they can to think to say is how bad this is for Obama. What Jennings omitted in the ellipses was this: "expulsions of 35 diplomats and the closure of two Russian compounds." That in and of itself is light years ahead of anything Trump has done. Read the entire article he misquoted: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 71f99560eb

“On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it."

That's a blatant lie. We know Obama didn't do "nothing." But what's an indisputable fact is that the Obama administration warned the incoming administration of what Russia had been doing and all Trump did was say it was all a hoax because Putin told him so. The Mueller report demonstrates:

1. Russia most definitely interfered in the election for the purpose of helping Trump.
2. The Trump campaign knew about it and welcomed it.
3. Russia expected to benefit from a Trump presidency.
4. Trump campaign expected to benefit from Russian interference.
5. When the Trump campaign realized what Russia was doing, they didn't report it to the FBI. That in and of itself would be grounds for execution (in the eyes of the Right) had it been Obama.
6. Trump stood on the world stage in Helsinki two years later and basically said US intelligence was untrustworthy and incompetent, while Vladimir Putin was an honorable person who told the truth.

Now Trump and his idiotic minions are trying to turn this around and blame Obama.