The Redacted Mueller Report

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subgenius wrote:
Maksutov wrote:It's a fantasy posted by a Republican Congressman. :lol: Of course he doesn't mention Trump defending Putin against our own intelligence agencies.

or mention of Obama ignoring Russia...maybe Trump is just "waiting until after the election ", ya know? then he will have more "flexibility "
amiright?


It is demonstrably false that Obama ignored Russia. It is also a mystery why you think it is scandalous that Obama tell Russia he would have more flexibility after he wins reelection. Just how flexible do you imagine him to be had he lost the election?
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What Jennings omitted in the ellipses was this: "expulsions of 35 diplomats and the closure of two Russian compounds."


Didn't the expulsion of diplomats only come after Trump won the election of 2016? What exactly did Obama do before Hillary lost the election?
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ajax18 wrote:
What Jennings omitted in the ellipses was this: "expulsions of 35 diplomats and the closure of two Russian compounds."


Didn't the expulsion of diplomats only come after Trump won the election of 2016? What exactly did Obama do before Hillary lost the election?


Your questions are so stupid and deflective. It wasn't until December 2016, a month after the election, that Cybersecurity firm confirmed it was Russia that hacked the DNC server. That same month Obama expelled 35 diplomats and closed two Russian compounds. Again, this is much more than Trump has ever done. In fact, the only effort to punish Russia during Trump's administration was with the Mueller probe and Trump protested it every step of the way, calling it a hoax even after Mueller's report was released confirming Russia continues to attack us.
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One of the things that gets continually lost in the political back and forth is that, with or without the assistance of Trumpworld, the Russians interfered in the 2016 election with cyber warfare in a way that potentially influenced the outcome of the election.

Does any American want to see a foreign government put their thumb on the scale in a way that could swing the balance one way or another?

What specific steps should Congress, the Justice Department, The FBI and the Executive branch be taking to prevent the influence of Russia, or any other country, in 2020 elections? While many states have laws that put value on electronic documents, the lack of such federal laws prevented Mueller from looking at the stolen emails as a political contribution. Because the Trump Campaign did not take part directly in the stealing of the emails, and the government had no mechanism for placing a value on the stolen emails, they were limited to the crimes that could be considered.

In the days of ye olde governance of function, there would be a bipartisan blue ribbon panel to investigate Russian interference and recommend changes to our laws so to identify, combat, and prosecute attempts of foreign governments to interfere in our elections.
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They never confirmed it was the Russians that GOT THE DATABASE from the DNC. The servers were destroyed before officials got to look at them. The FBI got a copy of the servers. Even if Russia had hacked the servers, it does not explain how WikiLeaks got a FULL EMAIL DATABASE from the Russian government.
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subgenius wrote:Image

This paints a nice contrast between Obama and Trump.

Here, Obama tells the Russians what the story is, as opposed to Trump's Helsinki incident where Putin told Donald what to say. : D
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:Image

This paints a nice contrast between Obama and Trump.

Here, Obama tells the Russians what the story is, as opposed to Trump's Helsinki incident where Putin told Donald what to say. : D

This is true. Obama straight up betraying the voter. Trump, on the hand sees the trap that the CIA and FBI has set for him, they hadn't proved that the election has been tampered with. Still haven't proved it. Buying ads on Facebook is hardly tampering.

Simply put, Democrats want Trump to fail.
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SPG wrote:This is true. Obama straight up betraying the voter. Trump, on the hand sees the trap that the CIA and FBI has set for him


Which hand?
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Kevin Graham wrote:The Mueller report demonstrates:

1. Russia most definitely interfered in the election for the purpose of helping Trump.
2. The Trump campaign knew about it and welcomed it.
3. Russia expected to benefit from a Trump presidency.
4. Trump campaign expected to benefit from Russian interference.
5. When the Trump campaign realized what Russia was doing, they didn't report it to the FBI. That in and of itself would be grounds for execution (in the eyes of the Right) had it been Obama.
6. Trump stood on the world stage in Helsinki two years later and basically said US intelligence was untrustworthy and incompetent, while Vladimir Putin was an honorable person who told the truth.

Now Trump and his idiotic minions are trying to turn this around and blame Obama.


Sums it up nicely.
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SPG wrote:Simply put, Democrats want Trump to fail.

By his own choice, Trump fails America with every passing day. He doesn't need the Democrats to wish that upon him.
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