SPG wrote:This is true. Obama straight up betraying the voter. Trump, on the hand sees the trap that the CIA and FBI has set for him
Which hand?
Which ever is your favorite.
We had lost faith in the 3 letter agencies already. He knew that. They cleared Hillary when there was actual proof of crime yet went after Trump on a wing and a fake dossier.
SPG wrote:This is true. Obama straight up betraying the voter.
There is no evidence of "betraying the voter." It is also a mystery why you think it is scandalous that Obama tell a Russian diplomat he would have more flexibility after he wins reelection. Just how flexible do you imagine him to be had he lost the election?
SPG wrote:Trump, on the hand sees the trap that the CIA and FBI has set for him, they hadn't proved that the election has been tampered with. Still haven't proved it. Buying ads on Facebook is hardly tampering.
It has been proven, you're just a very dumb person who brags about being self-educated. You don't know how to think critically, very much like the host of like-minded morons who form a cult around Alex Jones and Qanon. There is no evidence whatsoever that the CIA and FBI were against Trump from the beginning and laid traps for him. But even if they were, it is hilarious that any human being would think Trump is smart in any context.
SPG wrote:He is doing what he promised to do if elected. They all promised walls and security but quit.
Trump hasn't quit.
"Oh My God, this is the end of my Presidency. I'm f**ked."
If by "hasn't quit" you mean he hasn't resigned, but tried desperately to get other people to break the law and end the investigation he felt would end his Presidency, you might have a point. No, only morons interpret that as not quitting. The Mueller report revealed all kinds of facts the Left already knew, particularly the fact that Trump ran for President to use the campaign for a giant infomercial for his businesses.
And yes, Trump quit on the wall over a year ago and only brought it up again last December because Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter attacked him doing literally NOTHING about it two years into his Presidency. His own chief of staff said after the first year that Trump's views had evolved and the wall wasn't ever a serious thing. Now he's relying on his fake news machine to conjure up staged videos to prove he's actually building the wall he promised. But only you folks are this stupid, which is what he knows, and what he is counting on.
And yes, Trump quit on the wall over a year ago and only brought it up again last December because Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter attacked him doing literally NOTHING about it two years into his Presidency. His own chief of staff said after the first year that Trump's views had evolved and the wall wasn't ever a serious thing. Now he's relying on his fake news machine to conjure up staged videos to prove he's actually building the wall he promised. But only you folks are this stupid, which is what he knows, and what he is counting on.
We've never had a president or even a candidate speak so frankly and openly about our border situation. I don't think he ever quit on the wall but what if he did? Was there some opponent out there that was stronger on border enforcement then Trump that we should have voted for instead?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote:We've never had a president or even a candidate speak so frankly and openly about our border situation.
We've never had a candidate fear monger like this over the border situation which has seen crossings plummet over the previous years because the emergency is all in their racist heads.
ajax18 wrote:I don't think he ever quit on the wall but what if he did?
He did, which was evidence just six months ago. That means he's every bit the quitter you said he wasn't. Con artist is the better word.
Was there some opponent out there that was stronger on border enforcement then Trump that we should have voted for instead?
No one should vote for anyone based on an imagined threat conjured up by an orange moron who is just appealing to ignorance and racism among old white idiots like yourself.
Kevin Graham wrote: There is no evidence of "betraying the voter." It is also a mystery why you think it is scandalous that Obama tell a Russian diplomat he would have more flexibility after he wins reelection. Just how flexible do you imagine him to be had he lost the election?
If that moment can't be considered scandalous, after everything that has come out about Obama and the Russians then talking to you is dumb. They knew the Russians were meddling back in 2014 and he told our people stand down.
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Kevin Graham wrote: There is no evidence of "betraying the voter." It is also a mystery why you think it is scandalous that Obama tell a Russian diplomat he would have more flexibility after he wins reelection. Just how flexible do you imagine him to be had he lost the election?
If that moment can't be considered scandalous, after everything that has come out about Obama and the Russians then taking to you is dumb. They knew the Russians were meddling back in 2014 and he told our people stand down.
Sure. What about Obama? What about Dubya? What about Bill Clinton? What about Poppy Bush? What about Ronald Reagan? What about Jimmy Carter? What about Gerald Ford? What about Richard Nixon?
We can play this game all night. It's called "Talk About Everything Except Trump's Behavior in the Mueller Report".
Look at the Helsinki statements and look at this report. Oh, I forgot that you haven't read it yet. You're waiting for Sean Hannity to read it to you.
SPG wrote:If that moment can't be considered scandalous, after everything that has come out about Obama and the Russians then taking to you is dumb. They knew the Russians were meddling back in 2014 and he told our people stand down.
You're the idiot bragging about having no education. Stand down from doing what exactly? You're so full of it. The audio clip where Obama said he would have more flexibility after the election isn't scandalous at all, it is just common sense. And it was in reference to missile defense. So what exactly is your claim here? That because Russia engages in cyber attacks we're not supposed to talk to negotiate with them on anything? The level to which they're attacking us now is light years ahead of and far more robust than anything they did prior to 2016. The real onslaught took place 5 hours after Trump publicly invited them to do so. I mean, if they get caught, all they have to do is say your president told us to.
And CFR that Obama knew Russia was attacking our elections in 2014. The cybersecurity outfit didn't confirm it was Russia in 2016 until December. You're an idiot.
Maksutov wrote: Sure. What about Obama? What about Dubya? What about Bill Clinton? What about Poppy Bush? What about Ronald Reagan? What about Jimmy Carter? What about Gerald Ford? What about Richard Nixon?
We can play this game all night. It's called "Talk About Everything Except Trump's Behavior in the Mueller Report".
Look at the Helsinki statements and look at this report. Oh, I forgot that you haven't read it yet. You're waiting for Sean Hannity to read it to you.
I don't want to play this blame game. I really don't care about what Obama did. The Mueller investigation is an attempted coup. I also knew before the report that wasn't anything criminal. If you talking about Trump's behavior, but won't look at your own, it's meaningless. I watched the Helsinki thing live. Putin denied the charge. What was Trump supposed to, punch him? Trump also knew agencies planned those things to come out so that they were embarrassing. We all knew the timing was BS.
That Trump might have stumbled or confused his comment didn't make him a traitor. The FBI was so obviously bias it makes me sick. You guys point to Trump's behavior, but there is so much he is fighting that isn't fair. So, yup, I pretty much give him a free pass. But mostly, I usually agree with him. Not saying I would want to work for him.
