Lindsey Graham:Non-compliance w/House is impeachable

[_Some Schmo]

The more ajax posts, the more I realize he's not really lying; he's just massively, continually wrong. There are no facts in his world; only dubious gut feelings that betray how incredibly ignorant he is.

If only we, as a country, could start winning again, so he understands what winning is. Sad.

[_canpakes]

I grew up being very proud of my adopted country and its past.

Really, our slave holding past and now governed by a document written by slave holding men?

Let me ask you something Gunnar. Do you feel guilty for the way your ancestors raped, robbed, enslaved and pillaged the Anglo Saxons in England?

It is entirely logical, responsible and mature to be able and willing to have pride in one’s country while simultaneously being willing to recognize what within it should be changed or can be improved, and be willing to work towards that goal.

I’m not sure why so many conservatives experience so much difficulty grasping this concept.

Do you think it would be fair for your family to pay reparations to mine given the history of our people?

At this point, reparations are a bit silly. But don’t fret, ajax - plenty of injured snowflakes within the current Administration can’t even bear to see affirmative action programs in place and are working towards the goal of tearing those down, so certainly no one is going to make you consider reparations any time soon.

[_EAllusion]

Serious reparations proposals tend to focus on people who are alive today who suffered under Jim Crow rather than slavery per se, for what it's worth.

[_ajax18]

Serious reparations proposals tend to focus on people who are alive today who suffered under Jim Crow rather than slavery per se, for what it's worth.

Were there ever serious reparation proposals at any time recently after any people were enslaved by another? Did the Romans pay back the people they conquered ever? Was there a constant demand for reparations by those who were enslaved in subsequent generations to correct this historical inequality?

One might counter that not every Scandinavian participated in the Viking raids. But then again not every southerner owned slaves. Not every white person is economically better off than every black person now. So when does it end? How long until we can leave the sinful history of this country in the past and not have it constantly thrown in our face from pre-k through college? How long until this is viewed as laughably as you view my demand for reparations from the Italians and the Scandinavians?

And why are north american white men to blame for what the Spanish did to Schmo's south American Indian tribe? I think it just has to do with who has the deepest pockets right now.

[_EAllusion]

The US government paid reparations to Japanese-American citizens it put in concentration camps. That occurred under Ronald Reagan.

[Guest]

It is entirely logical, responsible and mature to be able and willing to have pride in one’s country while simultaneously being willing to recognize what within it should be changed or can be improved, and be willing to work towards that goal.

I’m not sure why so many conservatives experience so much difficulty grasping this concept.

Obviously it is due to an abysmal lack of both responsibility and maturity, of which Donald J. Trump is the most notorious and most dangerous example. Severe cognitive impairment is also an important contributive factor.

[_EAllusion]

There’s a certain kind of conservative who will go on and on about what a dumpster fire America is, but will immediately flip scripts to a love it or leave it ultra-nationalism if they hear some who doesn’t share their views also criticize some aspect of America.

I would suggest to ya’ll that some of them post here.

[_Gunnar]

There’s a certain kind of conservative who will go on and on about what a dumpster fire America is, but will immediately flip scripts to a love it or leave it ultra-nationalism if they hear some who doesn’t share their views also criticize some aspect of America.

I would suggest to ya’ll that some of them post here.

Yes! their ridiculous hypocrisy would be highly laughable, if weren't also so tragically destructive.

[_Gunnar]

The US government paid reparations to Japanese-American citizens it put in concentration camps. That occurred under Ronald Reagan.

And, to his credit, with his wholehearted approval, as far as I can tell.

[_ajax18]

And, to his credit, with his wholehearted approval, as far as I can tell.

Are Scandinavian children taught how ashamed they should be of their Viking heritage for what they did to the people they raided?

Gunnar do you feel partially responsible for the wrongs committed in the antebellum south? I know your family wasn't even here then but you are white, right? Do you benefit from white privilege?