Trump is a Threat to National Security

[_honorentheos]

He won't take an American with him when he talks with Putin even though he can't speak Russian and you're cool with that?

He was in talks to do a massive deal past the point that he was nominated as the Republican Presidential candidate that would have included a multi-million dollar pent house for Putin but you want a smoking gun or we should ignore what he's been up to? Because military contractors in the US are in cahoots with the political class so burn it down?

Wow.

[_Dr Exiled]

He won't take an American with him when he talks with Putin even though he can't speak Russian and you're cool with that?

He was in talks to do a massive deal past the point that he was nominated as the Republican Presidential candidate that would have included a multi-million dollar pent house for Putin but you want a smoking gun or we should ignore what he's been up to? Because military contractors in the US are in cahoots with the political class so burn it down?

Wow.

So, you don't have anything other than possibilities, and this is after Mueller supposedly looked hard at these connections you are talking about. Sure, let's continue to be vigilant against Trump and his ilk. These obscure owners at Trump properties could all be Putin as the Moneyland author speculated with Terry Gross on NPR ..... let me know if you find more.

P.S. don't be surprised if I'm not converted yet to the Russiagate religion. I'm open to conversion .... if more evidence is shown. I think Trump ought to be investigated for his Saudi ties and Israel ties. His support of the Yemen war is probably a war crime. Impeach him and all those who support these wars. The Palestinian situation is shocking and Trump is front and center with his support of the occupation and murders that are committed there. Impeach him for that. It's just that the case can't be made on Russia. So, let's move on.

[_honorentheos]

You seem very committed to a few key issues related to the Bush-Cheney years and are fighting that war a decade later ala the Ron Paul reloveution. That's cool. But your concern with Clinton and the underlying sense that what the country needs is to run the bums out of town. What makes it seem naïvely insane is turning a blind eye to even worse and blatant corruption that you are dismissing because the brazen openness of it seems to require a conviction otherwise it is somehow less sufficient for you than whatever has led you to the point you're at regarding the view Washington is corrupting Trump to their pro-war agenda.

[_canpakes]

Its mind blowing that this happens and people like Markk just say it's sour grapes.

Currently, in another thread he spends his time bemoaning Obama's supposed weakness with Russia and lack of action on Russian interference; here he makes excuses for Trump doing no better, and arguably acting weaker.

Consistency is a very inconvenient thing for some mindsets and agendas.

[_Dr Exiled]

You seem very committed to a few key issues related to the Bush-Cheney years and are fighting that war a decade later ala the Ron Paul reloveution. That's cool. But your concern with Clinton and the underlying sense that what the country needs is to run the bums out of town. What makes it seem naïvely insane is turning a blind eye to even worse and blatant corruption that you are dismissing because the brazen openness of it seems to require a conviction otherwise it is somehow less sufficient for you than whatever has led you to the point you're at regarding the view Washington is corrupting Trump to their pro-war agenda.

Bush-Cheney and Obama-Biden were war criminals and Clinton wanted to continue their wars. She was delighted when Gaddafi died and her role in overthrowing his government. It looks like Trump is going that way too with his maneuvers around Iran and Venezuela. Aren't you tired of all the wars we are fighting?

As far as the corruption you think I am dismissing, I am dismissing the lack of a firm connection. Again, Mueller came up empty on his investigation and your Moneyland possibility could be true, but, there needs to be more proof. Let me know when you find it and I will believe if it is good evidence. Until then, it is just possibilities.

We are in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Somolia, and are trying to overthrow Venezuela. Israel runs a Palestinian prison camp that we shouldn't support but do. We still are running a prison camp in Guantanamo that should be illegal. We condone torture. These are facts. This must change and Trump seems to be falling online with the war state.

[_honorentheos]

You missed the Trump Saudi weapon thing. Where's that sit for you? And the timeline?

[_Dr Exiled]

You missed the Trump Saudi weapon thing. Where's that sit for you? And the timeline?

Trump's apologist views for the Saudis is troubling and should be investigated.

Do I have to be converted to Russiagate in order to have a legitimate opinion in your eyes? If so, why is that?

[_honorentheos]

I'm just curious how you align your belief he is being corrupted when he was making arms deals out of the gate with people like the Saudis who were in a shooting war in Yemen killing people with US weapons.

[_Themis]

I see you've yet to read Moneyland.

So, would at least five times change your view?

Take a close look at Trump as we should with all leaders. If there is evidence of a quid pro quo, I'd like to hear it. If you have it, then let us know.

Anyone not an ally of Putin should be very concerned by a president not using his own translator to talk to a leader of our biggest adversary. It's holy crap big.

[_Kevin Graham]