Anti-Abortion Insanity

[_subgenius]

Only if the rape victim confirms that she’s pregnant and can schedule and receive an abortion prior to the ‘heartbeat’ deadline, right?

Oh, no citation yet?
I believe all abortions require confirmation of pregnancy, but otherwise yes, there are restrictions to when, where, how, and by whom one can receive abortion services (varies by State).

But after that arbitrary, non-scientific and religiously-driven deadline our rape victim has to bring to term and birth the child of her rapist, right?

Oh, no citation yet?
No, rape victims do not have to bring to term and birth. They are just unable to receive services in a particular jurisdiction. This rape victim is free to receive abortion services elsewhere.

It sure is hard for you to just come out and say this, let alone tell me why rape victims must be required to do this.

Oh, no citation yet?
I agree, it is hard for me to perpetuate your factless fantasy. Rape victims are required to follow the law, yes. Perhaps you can show us how easy it is to come out and say why a rape victim dies not have to follow the law?

[_canpakes]

Only if the rape victim confirms that she’s pregnant and can schedule and receive an abortion prior to the ‘heartbeat’ deadline, right?

Oh, no citation yet?
I believe all abortions require confirmation of pregnancy, but otherwise yes, there are restrictions to when, where, how, and by whom one can receive abortion services (varies by State).

But after that arbitrary, non-scientific and religiously-driven deadline our rape victim has to bring to term and birth the child of her rapist, right?

Oh, no citation yet?
No, rape victims do not have to bring to term and birth. They are just unable to receive services in a particular jurisdiction. This rape victim is free to receive abortion services elsewhere.

It sure is hard for you to just come out and say this, let alone tell me why rape victims must be required to do this.

Oh, no citation yet?
I agree, it is hard for me to perpetuate your factless fantasy. Rape victims are required to follow the law, yes. Perhaps you can show us how easy it is to come out and say why a rape victim dies not have to follow the law?

The citation that you want is apparently the law that was passed. You seem to be realizing this which each “yeah, but...” that you give up there.

And you still can’t come out and admit that any rape victim who misses the “fetal heartbeat” (itself a misnomer) deadline is forced, under this law, to bring to term and birth her rapist’s child. Your attempt to escape that reality is to ask why that rape victim can't just follow the same law that demands she bear the rapist’s child.

Well. You still ain’t got the balls to state the truth, but you sure are doing your best to display an amazing lack of logic along with your lack of balls. ; )

[_Gunnar]

No, rape victims do not have to bring to term and birth. They are just unable to receive services in a particular jurisdiction. This rape victim is free to receive abortion services elsewhere.

The problem with that logic is that under some of these new anti-abortion laws, a parent or other individual who assists or transports a rape victim to get to another state where abortion is legal, can be criminally charged, and even wind up serving as much or more jail time than the rapist, upon return to their home state.

[_canpakes]

No, rape victims do not have to bring to term and birth. They are just unable to receive services in a particular jurisdiction. This rape victim is free to receive abortion services elsewhere.

The problem with that logic is that under some of these new anti-abortion laws, a parent or other individual who assists or transports a rape victim to get to another state where abortion is legal, can be criminally charged, and even wind up serving as much or more jail time than the rapist, upon return to their home state.

The other laughable problem with his defense is that he asserts that the law effictively doesn’t apply to the people within its jurisdiction because the same law may not exist in another area.

Good thing subs isn’t trying to be a lawyer ... or he’d suffer some severe heckling in a court of law ...

[_canpakes]

Dang, duplicate post. Must’ve been giggling too much. ; )

[_Gunnar]

The other laughable problem with his defense is that he asserts that the law effictively doesn’t apply to the people within its jurisdiction because the same law may not exist in another area.

Good thing subs isn’t trying to be a lawyer ... or he’d suffer some severe heckling in a court of law ...

Yup!

[_Gunnar]

Dang, duplicate post. Must’ve been giggling too much. ; )

Understandable. I often giggle or laugh out loud at many of subby's arguments myself.

[_Kevin Graham]

The whole "fetal heartbeat" is a lie because there is no fetal heartbeat at 6 weeks because there is no heart at 6 weeks.

Some may be able to hear vibrating cells that may become a heart weeks later, or a flutter of fluids, but that isn't a heartbeat in any sense of the term.

Like most Republican policies, this one is based on lies and misinformation.

[_Gunnar]

What makes it even worse is that too many Republican politicians apparently don't even care whether or not their policies are based on lies and misinformation.

[_canpakes]

What makes it even worse is that too many Republican politicians apparently don't even care whether or not their policies are based on lies and misinformation.

Pretty sure they’re counting on that being the case.